“So all these examples are ways that #states simplify and impose order on their environment and the people, in order to better control them. It’s a story about mechanisms of domination.” fivebooks.com/best-books/t... #politicalscience #books #SeeingLikeAState

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The Best Political Science Books

Emerging in the middle of the last century, political science combines data and theory to help us understand the political world. Professor Robert E. Goodin, editor of The Oxford Handbook of Political Science and co-editor of The British Journal of Political Science, introduces five seminal works from major sub-disciplines. His choices are accessible starting points that open up new ways of thinking: from big data to deep case studies, these are five books that will help you to make sense of the world – and to change it.

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"Thinking in terms of #legibility and illegibility explains so many of the things that are confusing about large software companies. It explains why companies do many things that seem obviously counter-productive, why the rules in practice are so often out of sync with the rules as written, and why companies are surprisingly willing to tolerate rule-breaking in some contexts."

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https://www.seangoedecke.com/seeing-like-a-software-company

Seeing like a software company

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Attached: 1 image 🎉 New paper in PNAS: Urban highways are barriers to social ties https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2408937122 Highways are barriers that cut opportunities for social ties. We quantify this effect by overlaying the US highway network with millions of social ties from Twitter.

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We can not rely on top-down institutions to implement the changes we need to address climate change, the slow reduction in top soil, etc. Top-down institutions rely on too much simplification of processes so those at the top can make decisions.

Bottom up institutions allow us to bring more perspectives, more information, more brainpower, to solve the complex problems we are facing.

#socialecology #sustainability #seeinglikeastate

I keep having to indicate my Gender on these bureaucratic forms and I already got told off once by my Uni for checking "divers" bc in Germany that's reserved for intersex persons and this shit is really pissing me off. It's the long arm of the state strong-arming its subjects into cis-gender conformity and it makes me sick #SeeingLikeAState
My mom and her sister respectively call each other 'Schweppes' (which is a name unrelated to either of their names). Different names in different contexts, groups and phases of life are a joy and were one of the first victims of #SeeingLikeAState (there's a great chapter in the book on this).

Friendgineers: I thought I had written about Seeing Like a State, but apparently not. It's very easy to fall into the habit of seeing like a state. However, it's not very useful.

#friendgineers #seeinglikeastate

https://friendgineers.rosenshein.org/posts/2023/07/28/

Seeing Like a State

It's very easy to fall into the habit of seeing like a state. It's also not very helpful.

A very quick summary of Seeing Like a State:

"How do I hold all these things?"

#SeeingLikeAState

A very short summary of "Seeing Like a State", by James C. Scott:

How do I hold all these things?

#SeeingLikeAState #JamesCScott

@marshall_0i

Indeed! It is a profound analogy.

I would like to add a couple of points that I believe are related to Ted Chiang's on knowledge generation, compression, complexity, and communication vis-Ă -vis LLMs (especially given the role these large and powerful corporations play in our day-to-day lives, and look increasingly indistinguishable from the role of states).

Both are from James C Scott, the great anthropologist who brilliantly captures these ideas in his work "Seeing Like a State: How Certain Schemes to Improve the Human Condition Have Failed"

1) The first of them is what he calls "legibility", and thus a simplification. Simplification (a form of compression) that turned out to be disastrous because of what he calls, "authoritarian high modernism".
This is how he explains legibility:

"The more I examined these efforts at sedentarization, the more I came to see them as a state’s attempt to make a society legible, to arrange the population in ways that simplified the classic state functions of taxation, conscription, and prevention of rebellion. Having begun to think in these terms, I began to see legibility as a central problem in statecraft. The pre-modern state was, in many crucial respects, particularly blind; it knew precious little about its subjects, their wealth, their landholdings and yields, their location, their very identity. It lacked anything like a detailed “map” of its terrain and its people."

2) The second idea is towards the end of the book, a type of knowledge he calls "metis" to contrast it to the knowledge a lot of us at the core of society generate and engage in, "techne".

Techne consists of our legible plans, rules, social codes, principles etc etc., including science and policy.

Metis on the other hand, is the thinking and knowledge process
that has to deal with the messy unpredictable complexity of both the human and natural world in the here and now. Thus practical skills and common sense improvisations to deal with such situations, which by their very nature are know-hows locally rooted, hardly transmittable, or legible, and thus harder or impossible to be either compressed or simplified.

I believe both "legibility" and "metis" along with lossy compression are equally applicable to LLMs.

Loosely speaking LLMs are like the "five year central plans" for organizing knowledge that Scott critiques in his book.

After all, Google does say their aim is to "organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful".

#legibility #metis #JamesCScott #chatgpt #LLMs #complexity #critique #mapterritoryrelation #AI #SeeingLikeAState