@conservancy @bkuhn

Looking forward to things greater and stronger than the AGPL! ❤️

#foss #floss #fosh #flosh #copyleft #commons #freesoftware

@openproject great demonstration/combination with #OpenHardware #OpenSourceHardware aka #FLOSS meets #FLOSH <3

@seeingwithsound

Copyleft is a legal trick based on copyright laws that instead of restricting everyone from using a piece of software, it guarantees the rights of everyone to use a piece of software. The GPL (Gnu Public License) is the canonical copyleft license, and it is well described on the Gnu website here: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/copyleft.en.html

The Linux kernel and GNU operating system are examples of software under the GPL.

F.O.S.S. stands for Free Open Source Software. FOSS is a sort of movement in the collaborative, communal software world where the public works together on mostly copyleft software to solve large and important software engineering problems.

The trend of FOSS is now getting into the collaborative, communal space of hardware engineering, where you're starting to see Free and Open Source Hardware or FOSH appearing more often. Hardware design licenses are still pretty new and many people simply use GPL or CERN has a good hardware license.

That's a lot of complicated legal licensing tricks that can be basically summarized as: "Let's share our designs and work together on technical solutions to large, complicated, important problems."

I was just wondering if you had any opinions on these movements in the software or hardware product design spaces.

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What is Copyleft? - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation

@pmonks @osi @fsf @ark74

I believe that open source solutions to these problems exist. The spirit of this license, I believe, exists to promote the ability of the public to use this software, freely unencumbered.

Am I missing something?

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@fsf

Is there an FSF antifa agenda?

If not, why?

Is fascism really not a concern?

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@pmonks @osi @fsf @ark74

I don't see a clear answer in the history of the email thread that you've linked regarding the question of how the SSPL does not satisfy the OSD.

I find that there are various people's individual opinions represented in the meeting minutes, but these don't represent the decisions of the OSI (or the FSF).

I am interested in strong copyleft licenses and the SSPL sounds like a strong copyleft license to me, on first reading, as an amateur.

It is not clear to me why it is not a strong (and healthy) open source free software license.

If this information is already clearly summarized somewhere, please point me to that location.

Otherwise, it would be great to hear a brief summary of how the SSPL violates the rules of the OSD.

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@pmonks @osi @fsf

I haven't received a single clear answer on the question of how the SSPL violates any of the OSD rules.

I've been CC'ing the FSF and OSI on my conversations on this topic, and I hope to hear from them!

Also, cc'ing @ark74 .

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@pmonks @osi @fsf

One thing I really value in the SSPL is that it recognizes the fact that a modern "app" is actually a collection of distributed cloud-based services, and the SSPL attempts to roughly categorize those services, e.g. a UI is needed for the user to interact with the app, etc.

In order to copyleft a modern app, a new license is needed. The SSPL looks like it might be the closest thing I've seen to such a license.

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@pmonks @osi @fsf

I've read the document. Are you referring to this section?

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all programs that you use to make the Program or modified version available as a service, including, without limitation, management software, user interfaces, application program interfaces, automation software, monitoring software, backup software, storage software and hosting software, all such that a user could run an instance of the service using the Service Source Code you make available.
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Do you think this section refers to a specific field of endeavor?

This wording strikes me as possibly useful wording for all kinds of fields of endeavor within the domain of cloud-based computation, which is really included in a lot of daily life and products these days. This wording just seems to refer to cloud-based computation and not any specific cloud-based app or type of app.

For example, I could imagine research scientists, like physicists taking advantage of SSPL software to do large-scale physical simulations.

Also, I could imagine businesses of all types could use SSPL software and cloud-based services without discrimination, as far as I can tell.

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@pmonks @osi @fsf

The SSPLv2 appears to me to protect the freedom of the users more than the AGPLv3 does.

As a user, I can run the SSPL software on my local machines because the entire SaaS stack that runs it is guaranteed to be FOSS.

As a user of AGPLv3 software, I'm not guaranteed to have the freedom to run the entire SaaS stack on my own machines because it doesn't guarantee that the stack is FOSS.

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