@neingeist @LambdaCalculus @adam @lunareclipse @armbian

Still, that doesn't change the fact that in terms of documentation and support they ain't even in the same league as @Raspberry_Pi and that really is a big problem, because that's what made the #RaspberryPi so successful.

Remember:

  • Software makes Operating Systems &
  • Operating Systems make Hardware.

That's why #Apple's #ARM64-v8.5A - based #SBCs are gamechangers and why #AMD64-based #PCs ain't dead like #ppc64 and #SPARCv9:

  • Because at the end of the day, people don't give a damn about specs and stuff, all they care about is getting their "Compute Needs" fulfilled at a price- and painpoint they can accept...

Which is why I use #refurbished and #surplus'd and64-based #ThinClients instead of a #Pi5B for #Server work:

  • They are cheap and they run basically all the stuff I care about.

OFC they won't replace big clusters at work but if your homelab has to run off German Energy Prices then you want a machine that barely sips power...

Kevin Karhan :verified: (@[email protected])

@[email protected] #sarcasm aside: The problem with any @[email protected] *"competitior"* is that they fail to understand why the #RaspberryPi brand got strong and basically dominates the space: - It's not #specs as the #BananaPi0M2 [showed]( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51OMXTElStM ), but: - Excellent #documentation and - Excellent 1st, 2nd and 3rd party support including #drivers in the #Linux #kernel!

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As long as "cheap chinese clones" only try to bamboozle with specs and not get their documentation and drivers onto an acceptable standard (and the #Pi5B sets the bottom line here!), noone wants to buy those.

  • I literally have a #BananaPiZeroM2 that I bought during the great #PiShortage but I never bothered to use it anywhere because it's more hassle than to antenna mod a #Pi0W or #Pi0W2 and call it a day because it doesn't require me to download some janky custom image to get even a regular 80x25 #Linux CLI up and running.
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@trevorflowers OFC if learning to do stuff and get experience on how to machine things is the main motivation, then I guess that's totally fine on it's own...

  • Given the low density heat output of a #Pi5B you'd likely get away with some big chungus copper block, tho considering the "final design vs. machining limits", I'm shure this would rather end up as a 12-slice "Trashcan Mac Pro Heatsink" where each Pi 5B gets top-loaded into the case...

But that's just me trying to figure out how to make that work.

Most certainly, it'll likely need good cable managment even if you only use #PoE and not even bother to put a PSU into the same case...

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@trevorflowers otherwise you could try to DIY a custom heatpipe + board mounting bracket to get those connected if you want it to remain #fanless...

  • The challenge would likely be that either way you'll need some big PSU to shove out 5V@3A for each @Raspberry_Pi / #Pi5B...

Or you'd #PoE those but good luck finding a PoE-HAT without a whiny fan included and/or airflow needed...

Either way you'd need to add like a heatsink on the #RP1 if you don't choose a cooling block that mounts over it and the Pi 5B's SoC and RAM, THO at that power level you might get away with soldering a cheap waterblock onto a sheet of copper and screwing it into the cooler mounts.

@SirTapTap considering the amount of #scalping of @Raspberry_Pi #RaspberryPi's and the fact that the #Pi5B will lilely not be available at #MSRP until the #Pi6B or #CM5 or #Pi500 get released, I can recommend to take a look at #ThinClients, because they have regular #amd64 #CPU's, plenty of ports, are almost always #fanless and also barely sip power.

I do use some #hp #t520 as #MiniServers to do #backups and #torrent #linux distros and just be things I can offload building OS/1337 to...