Wir haben das Zeichenlimit auf digitalhub.social von 500 auf 3.000 Zeichen erhöht. Ab sofort müsst ihr euch bei längeren Beiträgen nicht mehr einschränken.

Da es hierfür keine offizielle Einstellung gibt, nutzen wir unsere eigene gepatchte Version: https://github.com/Komplix/mastodon-extended

Falls euch Fehler auffallen oder etwas nicht wie gewohnt funktioniert, gebt uns bitte kurz Bescheid!

#Mastodon #MastoAdmin #Fediverse #LongPosts #Update #DigitalhubSocial #OpenSource

If you continue to post on Mastodon like it’s your only outlet for free speech (ca. 300 words plus), you are #blocked. That’s what blogs are for!

#longposts #markdown #Mastodon #Fediverse

@💀 Mirko 💀 @Kristian 🌒 Genuine Hubzilla posts (character limit = 16,777,215 = maximum capacity of the database field):

https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/item/c8a14063-b4e2-48fa-baf9-cb4faef7225b
https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/channel/jupiter_rowland?mid=c8a14063-b4e2-48fa-baf9-cb4faef7225b
48,977 characters, posted October 27th, 2023, all in one go, guaranteed.

https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/item/f8ac991d-b64b-4290-be69-28feb51ba2a7
https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/channel/jupiter_rowland?mid=f8ac991d-b64b-4290-be69-28feb51ba2a7
62,514 characters, posted May 16th, 2024, all in one go, guaranteed.

https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/item/8c2b4728-dda5-498b-9f84-2f11e163a4a5
https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/channel/jupiter_rowland?mid=8c2b4728-dda5-498b-9f84-2f11e163a4a5
76,780 characters, posted September 24th, 2023, all in one go, guaranteed.

(If you can't open either of these links, say so, and I'll reply with full quote-posts of these three posts.)

All character counts are raw, i.e. the actual number of characters visible. The characters are not counted the Mastodon way (= summary/CW counts into the character count, links are always 23 characters). BBcode markup is not counted in either, nor are the alt-texts, although both internally add to the character count.

Important to know: Local character limits aren't necessarily inbound character limits. For example, Mastodon is hard-coded to a maximum of 500 characters internally, but (AFAIK) it accepts posts coming in from outside up to 100,000 characters.

Likewise, Misskey is hard-coded to 3,000 characters internally. The Forkeys have a configurable internal character limit. But their inbound character limit is higher, hard-coded to ca. 8,000 as @aliceif :totally_a_real_lesbian_flag: has said.

Pleroma and Akkoma have configurable internal character limits that default to 5,000, but AFAIK a hard-coded inbound character limit of 20,000.

In all these cases, longer posts coming in from outside are immediately deleted from the inbox.

#Long #LongPost #LongPosts #LongToot #LongToots #CWLong #CWLongPost #LongPostMeta #CWLongPostMeta #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #CharacterCount #CharacterLimit #CharacterLimits #CharacterLimitMeta #CWCharacterLimitMeta #Hubzilla #Mastodon #Misskey #Forkey #Forkeys #Pleroma #Akkoma
The upcycling and upgrading of Clutterfly furniture continues

14 more boxes of upgraded Clutterfly items released; CW: long post (almost 49,000 characters due to extremely long image descriptions, but the main post text itself is 770 characters long), eye contact (technically invisible, but present), food (berries and candy canes, technically invisible, but...

Thanks @javi! I can't function on social media without the ability to longpost!

RE:
https://goblin.band/notes/aiqq1a4djsxusc9x
How do I subscribe to Mastodon premium? 🤔 I want to post on Mastodon without length restrictions. Separating posts seems to make my posts messy and unsorted. It places my posts in reverse order, from the last to the beginning. Looking for a way to post without length limits on Mastodon. Any solutions? 🤔 #Mastodon #Fediverse #LongPosts #DecentralizedSocial #MastoHelp #SocialMedia
@Larry Garfield @Renaud Chaput In this case, the handling of long-form content should be configurable per account.

The settings could be:
  • Render fully (default; what the devs of Hubzilla and (streams) want)
  • Always link (what Mastodon does with Article-type objects)
  • Link if title or subject is available, otherwise render fully
  • Link if title or subject is available, otherwise block
  • Block everything over 500 characters

Maybe there could be an additional setting for formatted content in general:
  • Render fully (default)
  • Render partially (the Mastodon 4 way right now)
  • Remove all formatting (what Mastodon up until 3 did)
  • Block

#Long #LongPost #LongPosts #LongPostMeta #CWLong #CWLongPost #CWLongPostMeta #500Characters #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Mastodon #Friendica #Hubzilla #TextFormatting #RichText
Netzgemeinde/Hubzilla

Leute, nur weil Ihr mehr als 500 Zeichen schreiben könnt, braucht Ihr die Leute nicht mit ultralangen Posts zuballern. Schreibt doch einen Blog und verlinkt den Beitrag. #longposts
@Gazeshift You won't be able to get that on mastodon.social.

Either you try to find a Mastodon instance that has a raised character limit. However, there's no list of Mastodon instances with character limits.

Or you move to something that's part of the Fediverse, fully federated with Mastodon, but not Mastodon proper, such as:
  • Pleroma (5,000 characters by default)
  • Akkoma (5,000 characters by default)
  • Misskey (3,000 characters hard-coded, feels very Japanese)
  • forks of Misskey like Sharkey or Iceshrimp (thousands of characters by default)
  • Friendica (unlimited characters, handles nothing like Mastodon)
  • Hubzilla (unlimited characters, handles absolutely nothing like Mastodon, doesn't work with Mastodon apps; this is where I am)
  • the Streams repository (unlimited characters, handles absolutely nothing like Mastodon, doesn't work with Mastodon apps, public instances are few and hard to find)

They're all guaranteed to always give you many many more characters than vanilla Mastodon plus stuff like quotes, quote-posts and text formatting on top. But you'll have to get used to a wholly different UI and UX.

#Long #LongPost #LongPosts #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Mastodon #NotOnlyMastodon #MastodonIsNotTheFediverse #FediverseIsNotMastodon #Pleroma #Akkoma #Misskey #Forkey #Forkeys #Sharkey #Iceshrimp #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #CharacterLimit #CharacterLimits #500Characters
What is Pleroma? - Join the Fediverse

"Write your posts as long as you want," they say.

"Don't be apologetic about it," they say.

"Literally everyone in the whole Fediverse has gotten used to posts over 500 characters, and nobody minds anymore," they say.

"Literally everyone on Mastodon is perfectly okay with all of Hubzilla's antics," they say.

"Nobody wants the Fediverse to only be vanilla Mastodon," they say.

Oh, really? Then I've probably faked this shared post here.

Citizen.Coping wrote the following post Wed, 20 Mar 2024 23:24:21 +0100 @Gargron

Being able to mute or filter posts that exceed 500 characters would be great.

Search is not good because it returns too many dissertations.

#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #LongPosts #LongToots #LongPostMeta #CWLongPostMeta #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #QuotePost #QuoteBoost #CharacterCount #CharacterLimit #CharacterLimits #500Characters #Sarcasm
Netzgemeinde/Hubzilla

Votes are in for another poll. This time it was about whether or not long posts should have a content warning.

The majority of Mastodon voters (9 of 14) voted against it, but roughly one out of three Mastodon voters voted in favour of it.

Even if I'll definitely ignore the one voter who wants posts over 500 characters banned all over the entire Fediverse, I'm not sure what to make of it myself. I mean, I almost always post over 500 characters.

On the one hand, content warnings for over 500 characters have their place. There seems to be at least one app that was built under the assumption that the Fediverse is only vanilla Mastodon, and there will never be over 500 characters in the Fediverse, so folding posts is unnecessary. Thus, it can't fold posts, and it shows all posts at their full length. Other frontends may offer the option to always unfold all posts, and users who thought that no post will ever exceed 500 character anyway have chosen that option.

I've only got one way to keep my posts from showing up in their timelines as gigantic walls of texts, and that's a summary which appears as a content warning on Mastodon. In fact, I've always added the character count, so people know beforehand if that post has only 700 character or over 75,000, and they can decide whether or not to open it. And yes, I've once posted over 77,000 characters in one post.

On the other hand, I guess that Mastodon users are blocking me left and right for my long posts anyway, regardless of whether or not I issue a content warning. I think there are tens of thousands of Mastodon users who have blocked me meanwhile.

The worst offenders, I think, have to be my rare image posts. Mastodon wants image descriptions. Image descriptions which actually describe what's in the image sufficiently both for the context and for the target audience and which also explain what the target audience doesn't know or understand. Yes, I do that, but for reasons I've already explained in an article, I always have a lot to describe and explain. This, however, means that I regularly put more characters into the description of one image than many prolific alt-text writers on Mastodon put into all their alt-texts of one whole month. And such a description can only go one place. That isn't the alt-text, that's the post.

So if I don't describe my images, my image posts may not be boosted, and Mastodon users may pester me to write alt-texts. But when I do describe my images, the posts aren't boosted either due to being too long and not even interesting, and Mastodon users block me out-right for excessively long posts. A content warning won't change anything.

Besides, I can't put Mastodon-style content warnings on replies anyway. On Hubzilla, replies aren't just posts like any other post. Hubzilla is not a Twitter clone. On Hubzilla, replies are comments like blog comments or Facebook comments or Tumblr comments. They even have their own dedicated entry masks while Mastodon has one for everything. And those entry masks don't have a summary field which is the same as Mastodon's CW field. I mean, who would put a summary on a blog comment?

Lastly, no warnings for my long posts reduces the effort for me. See, Hubzilla doesn't have a character counter, not in the post editor and not in the comment editor either. It doesn't need a character counter. It doesn't have any character limit to worry about.

So whenever I write a post, I generate a preview, then I copy the preview into a text editor, e.g. Mousepad, then I count the characters. And if they're over 500, I write a summary including a "CW: long ([insert rough or exact character count here] characters)" content warning and the four hashtags #Long, #LongPost, #CWLong and #CWLongPost for those who have filters for long posts which either remove them entirely or generate content warnings for them. So my long posts always grow longer by another 36 characters due to these hashtags. But I guess nobody filters either of these hashtags anyway.

I think I don't have to do either if people block me for my long posts anyway. I mean, I'll go on issuing content warnings for what might disturb Mastodon users; see this very post. And I'll go on issuing them two-fold, both as a Mastodon-style CW in the summary field and as filter-triggering hashtags. But maybe long-post warnings are ultimately useless because they don't change anything.

P.S.: Of course, non-Mastodon users don't care either way. My fellows on Friendica, Hubzilla and (streams) are used to massive walls of texts as regular posts because that has been part of their culture since 2010. They can't see how this could possibly be a problem. People on Misskey and the Forkeys are used to long posts, too, and besides, the *keys apparently reject posts with over 10,000 characters anyway.

#FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #CharacterCount #CW #CWs #ContentWarning #ContentWarnings #CWMeta #ContentWarningMeta #LongPosts #LongPostMeta
Jupiter Rowland

Another poll: When is a long post content warning necessary? Is it necessary? Is it non-sense? Or should posts longer than Mastodon toots be banned everywhere in the Fediverse? Please boost for a larger sample size. #Poll #LongPosts #LongToots #500Characters