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🫧 socialcoding..Apr 11

#ThoughtProvoker

Back to promise and power of AP?
Sustainable #evolution, hmm, yes.
#Emergence, you say? Right, umm.. 🤷

#Fediverse-we-have vs. #ActivityPub, which is more powerful and #versatile ?

Lego Sets vs. Lego Blocks, which is more powerful and versatile?

View the video mentioned in the article about Emergent Complexity..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HqUYpGQIfs

Can you influence and steer emergence and evolution? Some people like me, with Social experience design think so. Another person is Richard D. Bartlett known from #Loomio who also is behind #Microsolidarity, which I was reminded of the other day. Have a look for yourself..

https://www.microsolidarity.cc

#SX #SocialCoding #SocialWeb

Strypey Apr 8

Anyone keen to join a working group experimenting with a Hypermedia-Driven Architecture approach by applying it to an existing web app, Loomio, under the auspices of the Open App Ecosystem community?

https://www.loomio.com/d/VYPyO17M/building-interactive-websites-in-a-post-framework-web/3

@daz would you be willing to mentor such a group, given your excellent primer was my introduction to HDA?

https://hda.daz.is/architecture/

#HDA #OAE #OpenAppEcosystem #Loomio

Building interactive websites in a post-framework web

I recently stumbled across Daz's guide to building websites using HDA (Hypermedia-Driven Architecture), as an replacement for heavy and regularly obsoleted JavaScript frameworks like React. The finer details of his code examples go over my head, but what I think I understand from his description of the architecture, and the reasoning behind it, seems groundbreaking.The examples in Daz's guide are based around using HTMX. A comment on SH mentioned DataStar, which is maybe an alternative to HTMX? Certainly seems to have similar goals from what I read on their homepage.From what I read in Daz's guide, it seems like adopting this kind of approach to interactive web interfaces like Loomio, and fediverse web apps, could be a game-changer. Massively reducing the complexity of feature development and maintenance, and avoiding the cycle of having to massively refactor every time the JS framework in use becomes obsolete.Thoughts?

Loomio

🫧 socialcoding..Apr 6

#ThoughtProvoker 🤔

There are interesting paradigm shifts possible today, which result in great opportunities to break the browser oligopoly, and SaaS + cloud vendor hegemony of Web 2.0 with its Rube Goldberg technology stack.

@strypey referred to one of them, in a post to the Open App Ecosystem community group on #Loomio: The #hypermedia #web.

Since my hobby (it doesn't earn income yet) involves elaborating #SX methodology as a Social experience designer, I thought it interesting to add my follow-up from that perspective..

https://www.loomio.com/d/VYPyO17M/building-interactive-websites-in-a-post-framework-web/13

#SocialCoding #SocialExperienceDesign #SocialWeb #fediverse

Building interactive websites in a post-framework web

I recently stumbled across Daz's guide to building websites using HDA (Hypermedia-Driven Architecture), as an replacement for heavy and regularly obsoleted JavaScript frameworks like React. The finer details of his code examples go over my head, but what I think I understand from his description of the architecture, and the reasoning behind it, seems groundbreaking.The examples in Daz's guide are based around using HTMX. A comment on SH mentioned DataStar, which is maybe an alternative to HTMX? Certainly seems to have similar goals from what I read on their homepage.From what I read in Daz's guide, it seems like adopting this kind of approach to interactive web interfaces like Loomio, and fediverse web apps, could be a game-changer. Massively reducing the complexity of feature development and maintenance, and avoiding the cycle of having to massively refactor every time the JS framework in use becomes obsolete.Thoughts?

Loomio

Strypey Apr 1

Any Open App Ecosystem members who don't login to Loomio very often or allow it to send email notifications for new polls in the OAE group? I've started a sense check on the question of whether there's any interest in forming a subgroup to experiment with building a Hypermedia-Driven Architecture version of Loomio;

https://www.loomio.com/d/VYPyO17M/building-interactive-websites-in-a-post-framework-web/3

I'd love to know your honest opinions on this, whatever they might be.

#OAE #OpenAppEcosystem #Loomio

Building interactive websites in a post-framework web

I recently stumbled across Daz's guide to building websites using HDA (Hypermedia-Driven Architecture), as an replacement for heavy and regularly obsoleted JavaScript frameworks like React. The finer details of his code examples go over my head, but what I think I understand from his description of the architecture, and the reasoning behind it, seems groundbreaking.The examples in Daz's guide are based around using HTMX. A comment on SH mentioned DataStar, which is maybe an alternative to HTMX? Certainly seems to have similar goals from what I read on their homepage.From what I read in Daz's guide, it seems like adopting this kind of approach to interactive web interfaces like Loomio, and fediverse web apps, could be a game-changer. Massively reducing the complexity of feature development and maintenance, and avoiding the cycle of having to massively refactor every time the JS framework in use becomes obsolete.Thoughts?

Loomio

Strypey Mar 27

Seems Loomio.com no longer allows even public groups and discussions to be viewed by someone who isn't logged in (at least for me on LibreWolf /Fedora). Which means the public consultation on NZGOAL-SE;

https://www.loomio.org/g/NohQxyr9/nzgoal-software-extension-discussion-of-draft

... linked here;

https://www.data.govt.nz/toolkit/policies/nzgoal/nzgoal-se

Can't be viewed by any member of the public without a Loomio account, as it originally could be.

Is this due to a bug, or to commercially-motivated enshittification?

#Loomio #NZGOALSE

Stéphane Klein Feb 28

After more than a year on @SocialCoop I haven't received any reminder to renew my financial contribution. Is this normal? Is renewal simply left to members' own initiative?

My question on #Loomio : https://www.loomio.com/d/nt1xAsD0/question-about-the-contribution-renewal-process

#SocialCoop #question

Question about the contribution renewal process

Hello, On October 8, 2024, I made a contribution of £36.00 GBP to join the social.coop cooperative. Time has passed and today (2026-02-28), I just thought about renewing my financial contribution, in the amount of £12.00 GBP. I am surprised not to have received any message requesting a renewal of my financial contribution. I don't think I received an email, I saw nothing on the https://social.coop interface, and nothing on https://opencollective.com either. I found and read the Wiki page "Social.coop registration process" but found no documentation regarding "renewal". I have a few questions: is it normal not to receive a reminder? does the cooperative deliberately let members renew their contribution at their own pace, without any prompting, trusting in their commitment? Suggestion: what do you think about documenting how the renewal process works on the following pages? https://join.social.coop/registration-form.html and/or in a wiki page at https://git.coop/social.coop/community/docs/-/wikis/home Have a great day, Stéphane

Loomio

It's Richie Feb 18

Loomio the collaborative decision making tool REALLY needs a mobile app.

Im in communities where some members dont even own a laptop/desktop and these folks arent just mobile first they are mobile only.

Also, NOT having a mobile app is causing exclusionary dynamics as people miss being involved; and then rightly so, push to move away from the tool.

I've made a *pretty crappy* pitch for this in the loomio github issues.

If you care about this also, you can read what I said and add your own thoughts here..

https://github.com/loomio/loomio/issues/12189

Dont know what loomio is?
Here: https://www.loomio.com

#loomio #digitalInclusion #DigitalJustice #CollaborativeDecisionMaking #FOSS

Loomio Mobile App · Issue #12189 · loomio/loomio

I've had another group start to step away from loomio as there are community members that dont use desktops or laptops. Some community members dont even own a computer! (Which I personally find har...

GitHub

Strypey Nov 29

“'Discussion' is clearer, more intuitive language, and makes it easier to explain how Loomio works without the awkwardness of the word 'thread'. For example, without this change, the previous paragraph would have read: Loomio works best when you start with a thread."

@robguthrie, 2025

https://www.loomio.com/blog/2025/10/25/terminology-update/

I think these are good changes. I haven't been using Loomio as much since I started doing most of my online activity on mobile devices. Maybe it's time to get back into it.

#Loomio #UX

Terminology update in Loomio - Loomio

Thread → Discussion, Decision → Poll

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Hippo 🍉Oct 20

@Tutanota and here I was happily emailing people on #Thunderbird and making designs on #Penpot and #Inkscape to share via #XMPP, at which point I remembered to catch up on discussions on #Loomio, and got roped into drafting a manifesto on #Cryptpad, all while blissfully unaware of the chaos going on until I opened #Newsflash and read about it all on the #RSS feeds that I synchronise via #NextCloud, at which point I decided to head over to talk about it with the world thanks to #ActivityPub!

The Prāv Cooperative Oct 5, 2025

Our #Inktober for Day 3 has a very simple message from our #XMPP project: community rules! 👑️

Thanks to the #Loomio decision-making platform for enabling us to manage community discussions, votes, and polls, and the Free Software Community of India (#FSCI) for hosting the instance #Codema that we use for it 🗳️

Art by @badrihippo 🎨️

#Prav #Inktober2025 #Crown