Signal Founder Moxie Marlinspike: Telegram is not private. There is nothing private about it. They've done a really amazing job of convincing the world that this is an encrypted messaging app

*"Telegram is not a private messenger. There's nothing private about it. It's the opposite. It's a cloud messenger where every message you've ever …

@max_baranskyi по-перше #Fucktelegram.
По-друге канал попав під #DSA (це мої здогадки), що мабуть добре адже це принаймі спрацювало як мало б спрацювати для #WhatsApp Chenels.

Чекаю коли і телеграм нарешті попаде під #DSA, але для України ситуація навряд зміниться загалом.

I used the LINE messenger for the very first time the other day. Downloaded from the official source, my goal was simple: a single, private chat with one person, which LINE claims is protected by End-to-End Encryption (E2EE).

Our "conversation" was minimal – mostly just test messages. One single contact.

A few days later, I log in to find my account has been temporarily (for how long? =)) blocked.

This raises a cognitive dissonance for me:

Promise vs. Reality: We're told E2EE means no one, not even the company, can read our chats. If that's true, on what basis was I blocked? I have to assume it's related to something in the chat, because I literally did nothing else in the app. But if it is E2EE, how could they know? Does this mean E2EE is just a marketing buzzword and monitoring is happening anyway? I'd genuinely like to know what the real factors are.

Absolute Opacity: This is the real issue. I received zero explanation. No email, no warning, not even a vague hint at which policy I "violated." And look, I'll be the first to admit I didn't read the 100-page Terms of Service – who does? But that's not the point. Even if I did technically violate some obscure rule, the core problem is the total lack of transparency. I was left with no idea, not even a guess, as to what happened. This opaque, black-box process is the real problem.

This situation is deeply concerning. What if I lived in a country like Japan, where LINE is the default, essential messenger? I'd just be cut off from my digital life without cause or appeal. And if this happens on LINE, what stops WhatsApp from doing the same? (And let's not even talk about Telegram, which is 100% cringe and a lost cause for privacy anyway).

My takeaway: To be honest, I went into this as an experiment, and this incident 100% confirmed my expectations.

This isn't just a LINE problem. We see it constantly from Big Tech like Meta and Google. They ban users, often with no explanation, because they have the full legal right to do so. We all agreed to this when we blindly clicked "accept" on their Terms of Service.

This is exactly why my advice is this: you must factor in this risk with all commercial messengers. When you use any private, centralized platform, you have to accept the fact that you can be denied service at any time, for any reason, and they don't even have to tell you why. That is the price of admission we all paid.

The promise of a "private chat" apparently doesn't include the guarantee of access to the platform itself.

#privacy #E2EE #LINE #messengers #transparency #BigTech #Meta #Google #ban #DigitalRights #PlatformRisk #ToS #experiment #FuckTelegram

russian biowaste #Telegram. #FuckTelegram everywhere

Telegram is officially SHIT.

The single most upvoted suggestion on their bug tracker is for the ability to disable stories.

The official response is straight up gaslighting.

https://bugs.telegram.org/c/30207

#telegram #stories #enshittification #userhostile #badux #badui #fucktelegram

Bugs and Suggestions

@vtag и вот ваш "приватный" и "безопасный" месеенджер 😃 #FuckTG #FuckTelegram
根据telegram的term of service 7.4 条,作为telegram premium服务一部分的“语音转文字服务”会导致用户的语音消息被发送给Google LLC.做语音转文字处理。

tos原文如下:
7.4. Voice-to-text conversion
Premium Services include the ability to convert any voice message on Telegram to text. This technology is still evolving and there is no guarantee that every voice message you attempt to convert to text will be transcribed correctly or transcribed at all. The accuracy and availability of this technology depends on a third party (Google LLC, subsidiary of Alphabet Inc.), and we can not guarantee that it will always be accurate and available.

链接:
https://telegram.org/tos#7-4-voice-to-text-conversion

again:
请各位想在telegram里发送语音消息的茸友三思而后行:)
#telegram #fucktelegram
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