@patrickhadfield @adrianfry @grayface_ghost

yes, that is the achilles heel of constitutionalism - when I was working for #Charter88, a common criticism from the floor of public meetings was for someone to stand-up and read from a constitution to general applause at its content/clauses... but then they would 'reveal' it was the constitution of the Soviet Union! - encapsulating the problem of constitutional words & different practice/enforcement

@adrianfry @patrickhadfield @grayface_ghost

Yup, that was the #Charter88 position - and although they didn't achieve that, the logic remains apposite

@Gaolaitch

This was certainly part of the problem #Charter88 (who campiagned in the 1990s for PR among other constitutional changes) confronted when I worked for them

For those who remember the constitutional pressure group #Charter88 (full disclosure - I worked for them fr a couple of years in the early 1990s), here's a contemporary campaign with a similar set of aims for us to get behind.... time for change is upon us (not the sort of change #RushiSunak conducted this morning, of course!)

https://themovementforward.com

The Movement Forward

Taking tactical voting mainstream, for urgent change from a new government.

The Movement Forward

Gavin Esler poses the key Q. for contemporary #politics:

'We tolerate a sclerotic, antiquated democratic system allowing people you wouldn’t trust with your wallet or to babysit your children to rise through deceit and thrive through failure'... Why?

Interestingly among the reasons he highlights is the UK's lack of a written constitution; in the 1990s #Charter88 made this the centre of its campaign for reforming UK politics; perhaps a new campaign would (now) succeed?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/25/key-question-britain-2023-why-do-we-put-up-with-this-rubbish?CMP=fb_cif

Here’s the key question about Britain in 2023: why do we put up with this rubbish?

We tolerate a sclerotic system that allows the rise of people you wouldn’t trust with your wallet, says broadcaster and author Gavin Esler

The Guardian

@barks

Yes, I agree & spent a couple of years in the early 1990s working to these ends with #Charter88... whose agenda for reform remains as timely now as it was thirty years ago

@Peternimmo @nickbwalking

Yup, agree with all that.... the polite (middle-class?) remonstrations of #Charter88 (for whom I worked foe a while) equally went nowhere, even if they were relatively well received by the political class at the time

@ScotHomestead

Yes I just saw that - there will be a lot of ex-#Charter88 supporters cheering from the sidelines!

@philheppenstall @Dasy2k1 @gdunn39 @kennethb @epistatacadam

yes this was quite a popular position among #Charter88 staff & supporters as a sort of achievable end, and makes good sense

@Dasy2k1 @gdunn39 @philheppenstall @kennethb @epistatacadam

I agree (although maybe not about the actual PR system), which is why I spent the best part of two years working for #Charter88 in the early 1990s towards that end... we failed;

more recent chances at change (most recently the LibDem-led referendum) also have not managed to produce a majority behind the transition....

so we are where we are & we very much need to #gettheToriesout! #GTTO