@adrienne @fasterthanlime

The "just don't talk about it, we don't know enough yet" attitude that's made its nest in the rust community and the pushback that the more critical elements of the community have received are honestly such incredible vehicles for perpetuating the toxicity

@adrienne @fasterthanlime

Agreed, I'd name names if I had them, but if I had enough information to have names, I would have been screaming them from the rooftops for ages by now.

I lost any shred of trust I had in rust leadership years ago now, and it is beyond frustrating and disappointing that it's taken this long for someone on the inside to go into even the little amount of detail that we got this round.

As far as I'm concerned, even once names get named, the remaining members of leadership still have a lot to reckon for before I'd consider them trustworthy, and I'm honestly not sure if I'd be satisfied by anything short of a complete turnover of leadership

@fasterthanlime

I just wanted to say thank you for finally speaking out about this.

I've been watching a lot of sketchy things going on in rust leadership second hand through various connections in the community, including moderating a secluded space where we've occasionally had those negatively affected by such decisions pop in, and it's been incredibly frustrating just _knowing_ that something is wrong, but having neither the platform nor the hard evidence to really do anything about it, and quite honestly, its sapped all the will to use rust in personal projects out of me.

Your speaking out on the subject finally gives me a little bit of cautious optimism about the situation.