@Sir_Osis_of_Liver @GottaLaff there's a lot to watch. No way mercedes cracked AGI. Absolutely none. Or rather their software vendor. Zero chance.
My feeling all these systems based on long discredited but easy to map to compute theories of cognition. Because geeks they didn't take right classes. Mercedes probably using very basic but reliable for subset of driving logic. Can never pass that.
True test: next fsd major upgrade core not incremental change. If so on wrong path. Robots though.
@Sir_Osis_of_Liver @GottaLaff I decided to stop following fsd closely for a few months at least once I realized beta tester TOS apparently does not allow for showing serious ongoing failure.
I'm going to remain very skeptical of CR and mercedes until see what its parameters are, ie can only be used under xyz circumstances. Which is what most do.
What's interesting is where current machine learning systems fail for AI and driving they are working in robots. Slower. Simpler problems.
@thepoliticalcat it's not related to race. Same in Asia south america africa.
But Elon didn't fall. I don't like that narrative. He made tech company sold it made another, paypal I think, sold it. Put all that capital into spaceex, almost failed, last launch worked. Then did reusable boosters which nobody had done commercially, grabbed big slice of market by cost reliability.
Old elon understood success comes from surrounding with best /brightest. New elon is not doing that. Ego Drugs Money
@Sir_Osis_of_Liver @GottaLaff ford blue cruise impossible. Couldn't even do curve on freeway last year, or year before. Unless they got new logic engine? When lightning came out. CR do weird testing. Don't trust it. Mercedes haven't followed or seen. Cruze/waymo both trash. Neither should be allowed on road.
A lot of these depend on what I call slot car logic: micromapping plus gps plus light vision/radar/lidar. None of those are real. Just hacks.
@thepoliticalcat I have always viewed Elon as the insecure nerd whose skills and drive pushed him to do things nobody could do. But no inner strength or balance, that wealth and adulation had to create an ego like that. Egos are protective wrappers in a sense. The weaker the core the more dangerous the ego shell construct. I don't think he could avoid this.
Really common in tech. Is why so many tech bros fall into libertarian trap. Aka neofeudalism. Dorsey is same but not as driven.
@Sir_Osis_of_Liver @GottaLaff I agree re ct. First tesla that over promised and under delivered. But still 48v full, truly groundbreaking, industry resisted for decades, castings. Ct half built by kid, half by great engineers. I don't see how they can sell it. Sharp edges all over. Front window stupid. Wiper really stupid.
But at core the exact wrong direction for evs. Too big too bloated. Not long term solution. Way better to pull gas subsidies and price pickups out of non commercial market.
@Sir_Osis_of_Liver @GottaLaff don't get me wrong. Much to my chagrine I didn't buy tesla when I was telling my friends to, but at this moment I just can't get my finger on where it's really going. It depends on if their cognition model in fsd 12 works. I say no. But surprise twist it's working in real robotics. Agility in market. Really hard to predict.
Byd I believe not doing as well as expected in europe and no plans to build plant in usa. Mexico yes.
Elon stupidly alienating his buyers
@thepoliticalcat @GottaLaff the idee fixe is the one to pay attention to. Musk does not know himself and is surrounded by yes men. I've seen him reference ketamine in interviews as partially responsible for his focus and success which I suspect is true though never tried K so can't say. But probably true. He just doesn't grasp there are costs involved. And risks. It's not free. Particularly not with low grade synthetics like that.
Ego is what all real practices train you to not get trapped by.
@Sir_Osis_of_Liver @GottaLaff we may be witnessing Musk failing to read bios of similarly famous engineers like Howard Hughs.
Note rest of oems trying to pull back on bev and do hybrids or phev because they are losing money. This is a bigger story with far more bits.
Elon blowing it big time with twitter big bit. Elon not understanding cognition and humans another. Not grasping freedom of speech unrelated concept to corporate social media big part. All symptoms. Baglino, Kirkhorn leaving...