@nextcloud @eluxzen

You are going to be amazed when your education progresses to Charles Babbage, who not only wrote computer programs before Ada Lovelace did, but also designed the computer itself which could run them!

@nextcloud

It would be odd to mention Ada, but to omit the guy who designed and built the computer she programmed, and who taught her how to program it! Charles Babbage was his name, and all of computing history owes him a debt of gratitude.

@beitmenotyou

You're working on the #Nextcloud "Talk" app, then?

@User47

This was Bill Gates's biggest crime: even worse than "embrace, extend, extinguish" was his lobbying through the BSA to have software covered by copyright law rather than patent law.

That's obviously wrong to everyone who spends more than 30 seconds thinking about it: software is instructions to accomplish things, not art to be appreciated by gawking at it. So it should be patented, requiring full disclosure (publication of its source code), with much shorter expiration dates.

@zep

If by "different accounts" you mean "different people," then #Nextcloud has the multi-user framework and permissions model established to share files and databases among multiple users. I #selfhost it on a #RaspberryPi 5 at home. Then we can choose between a shared markdown file, or a table, or the Kanban-like task-tracking app "Deck" to create a shopping list.

My significant other and I have standardized on the "Deck" app, and it works well for shared shopping lists.

@contrapunctus

"Freedom-respecting software" makes the problem worse because it still has three words and now seven syllables, and requires knowledge of how to use hyphens correctly. It is a branding nightmare.

Furthermore, it is not formally defined anywhere that you can easily give someone a link to learn about its meaning. And, as with all words, still no one is born knowing its definition, so you have failed to fix the definition problem in an easier way.

@contrapunctus

"Open source software" is a quite-good term semantically, because it was not already used to mean something else (especially not *two* different things!) before it was coined and formally defined by the Open Source Foundation. Its only drawbacks are:

1. It does not draw focus to the four freedoms, which are of foundational importance, and

2. It is three words and five syllables.

"FOSS" fixes both of these sub-optimalities, and thus using it is excellent, clear communication.

@contrapunctus
No, it is not "mistakenly" called FOSS or FLOSS. It is *intentionally* and *deliberately* called those terms by everyone who is better at naming things than Richard Stallman.

It's not that we disagree with him: we strongly uphold his principles about the Four Freedoms, and appreciate and recognize everything he's done for us. It's just that we are better at choosing which words to use to eliminate ambiguity than he is.

So yeah, we're not mistaken.

@KC8JC
May I suggest advising instead that FT8 users should not respond to a CQ on the same frequency on which it was sent? The real newbie move is failing to select the "Hold TX Freq" checkbox, and then creating a pileup on the CQ-caller's frequency. The wise move is to select a spot on the waterfall that's clear in which to transmit.

That way, when a QSO finishes, you *can* stay on the same frequency, respond to other CQ-callers, or start calling CQ yourself.