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@GossiTheDog to be fair, there's probably been very little data loss. In fact, I bet there are numerous copies now.

@eljefedsecurit that's what I think, too. When viewership is down, use the ol' standby: xenophobia.

I'm still keeping an open mind, but I haven't seen a shred of actual evidence yet. It usually boils down to TikTok = China = scary.

I repeatedly see "they can share your data!" But what data?

If you use the app to only *view* videos, the app requires no permissions. This is easily verified in Android's app-permission settings. If someone has evidence that TikTok has discovered a way around Android's permissions model, they should alert Google ASAP.

If you make videos, the app needs usual storage/camera permissions. And there is no evidence, to my knowledge, of the app siphoning off more local data than required. The app has certainly been under scrutiny, so I think that would have been discovered by researchers by now.

And finally, just about everything posted to TikTok is publicly available. If you upload a video to it, the world can see it. So what "secret data" would TikTok have?

I'm just not seeing the threat that TikTok poses. Is there any explanation that contains evidence?
@crh yep I had never seen the term before. I just assumed I was behind the times again.
@crh interesting. So is EDR generally considered to be a superset of EPP?

I have an insurance questionnaire asking if I have a deployed EPP.

I honestly have no idea.

Is Defender for Endpoint, Defender for Identity, or the rest of A5 Security considered an EPP?

@crh compared to what? Once I have fiber, the price is $40.
Starlink prices are decreasing (and increasing). Can't wait till I have fiber and can drop this crap.
Can you limit SharePoint Online permissions here to a single SharePoint site, or is there another place where that granularity can be done?
@katzmandu it does, but you don't need WSL for it. OpenSSH runs natively.