Hey friend, I appreciate all of the links and the feedback. Let me define these terms so we are on the same page.

Violence - the use of physical force with the intent to cause injury/death to a person/group Violent extremism - the belief system and actions of individuals/groups who use violence to achieve ideological/religious/political goals

Hopefully you are good with that.

Ok, so for the first two links you provided. Kirk was an evangelical christian and a promoter of those ideas. His views on the role of woman in society and his ‘all life is sacred’ stance on abortion is run of the mill in those circles. You and I likely align with our disagreement of those religious views, but these are standard, boiler plate views being promoted by evangelical christians. We may not like these views, but they are far from violent and even further from something extreme.

At the risk of sounding a bit dismissive, the other links about TPUSA members I will not and feel no need to comment on. We were talking about Kirk.

Regarding the last link, I’ve seen those racial quotes before. They are all out of context and very deceitfully so. If you are not going to take the time to listen to those quotes in context, just know that a lot of black people mourned Kirk’s death. If you do take the time to listen, I am not asking you to agree with Kirk, I rarely do, but I would ask that you question if these were calls to violence or even that extreme of a view.

All that said, the point I am truly trying to get across here is that words have meaning. Someone saying a vile racist thing is simply someone saying a vile racist thing. This is very distinct from getting punched in the face.

Really? Being distrustful of those that have nothing to gain by being truthful and a lot to gain by lying is ‘rogan levels of lol’? Would you be interested in purchasing a bridge?

Thanks for the out of context quote. I jumped around the podcast they pulled this from. I didn’t find the moment he said those specific words, but it looks like it was 4 dudes shooting the shit talking about public execution for convicted pedos. Do you consider that ‘advocating for violence’?

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haha, that’s really cute <3

Mentioning that we should be sceptical about the narratives pushed by the FBI and politicians does not mean I’m pushing some other narrative. None of us know what happened that day (and we may never actually find out), but I can assure you that the if the truth does come out it won’t come from the people in power.

Again, there is no definitive evidence that this kid was the shooter. He’s only been accused of that by the FBI. You know, the FBI? The people that have a LONG history of making things up to protect their friends, the organization that is renown for destroying evidence. Looking at whether this kid was left/right/trans/gay/groyper/whatever, is a giant waste of time and energy.

Well clearly I missed it. What was it? The public execution thing?

Well that’s adorable. What evidence was provided to support the assertion that Kirk was a ‘violent extemist’?

I’m not asking to be difficult, I’m sincerely asking. I’m not in the information bubble or social circle that makes that assertion obvious.

Thanks! I appreciate the explanation. Hopefully the other person will provide the first bit of proof to back up their claim 🙂

Where did this term come from? This is the first time I’m hearing it.