I used to see final versions characterized as “fuck it” patches where the whole cast gets buffed to do ridiculous things compared to what existed before. The most fitting example given was probably MBAACC where several characters are sometimes soft-banned, while examples like Persona and DBFZ didn’t have this happen to their final versions per se but the principle was still there.
I guess I bring this up particularly in relation to XX. There’s a Dustloop, I guess I could call it an editorial, which discusses how influencers have been mischaracterizing +R as a “fuck it” patch because they never played AC. Being a post-rollback player, I can’t directly judge such a thing one way or the other, but I do sense that there’s more to the story than that. The people I’ve seen talk about the old days of ArcSys did play AC and watch old XX versions, and there does seem to be nuance to this as AC Eddie has frequently been brought up as a counterpoint to “the damage in Strive is too high”. It seems just because AC has a couple of standout characters who eclipse the +R cast, that isn’t sufficient to refute whatever it is people really mean by a “fuck it” patch (this is, in fact, not dissimilar to what happened to DBFZ).
I think what actually happened was that people came back to +R when it got rollback and ended up talking a bunch about old GGs. LordKnight and ApologyMan played a set for content and LordKnight insisted on playing AC. ApologyMan was spared the threat of two pin angles and FB Secret Garden. The term “character power” was used in a very specific way that a lot of people still don’t understand. 5 years later it has lost all context and is just a thing people say.
Also I think the Johnny example hurts the argument far more than it helps.
I guess I bring this up particularly in relation to XX. There’s a Dustloop, I guess I could call it an editorial, which discusses how influencers have been mischaracterizing +R as a “fuck it” patch because they never played AC. Being a post-rollback player, I can’t directly judge such a thing one way or the other, but I do sense that there’s more to the story than that. The people I’ve seen talk about the old days of ArcSys did play AC and watch old XX versions, and there does seem to be nuance to this as AC Eddie has frequently been brought up as a counterpoint to “the damage in Strive is too high”. It seems just because AC has a couple of standout characters who eclipse the +R cast, that isn’t sufficient to refute whatever it is people really mean by a “fuck it” patch (this is, in fact, not dissimilar to what happened to DBFZ).
I think what actually happened was that people came back to +R when it got rollback and ended up talking a bunch about old GGs. LordKnight and ApologyMan played a set for content and LordKnight insisted on playing AC. ApologyMan was spared the threat of two pin angles and FB Secret Garden. The term “character power” was used in a very specific way that a lot of people still don’t understand. 5 years later it has lost all context and is just a thing people say.
Also I think the Johnny example hurts the argument far more than it helps.
