@strypey @ralphm @evan @rabble wasn't at Twitter and wasn't involved in the xmpp implementation. After I left (in May 2008), my understanding is that the ops team made a half-hearted attempt to keep the xmpp service going, but didn't have the capacity to devote time to it, so abandoned it. Unfortunately, their messaging on it was "xmpp doesn't scale" which was patently false, but it poisoned the water.

The complexity of the XMPP standards didn't help matters, of course.

@strypey thanks for putting a definition of "Trained #MOLE" in your bio.

Obviously, I don't love being compared to an LLM because you happen to disagree with my approach to word choice.

In reflection, I used the precise term the conference chose, and my contribution wasn't to split linguistic hairs.

My last word here: I've had way too many conversations where people lost up their own bums insist that their words are the only way to think about a thing. Life's too short for that noise. 💜✌️

@mathowie really interesting, and I think illuminating post because it maybe highlights how the code use-case is so useful, vs the more consumer oriented tools (which, for the most part, I wouldn't personally waste my breath on).

One note on the xcode thing: just get claude code to build the app for you (!). I've built several native ios & macos apps with cc at this point (with full Apple Dev code signing flows!) and have _never_ opened xcode.

@strypey 💜 Thanks!

Re: capitalization, if it's any consolation, I'm usually not one for precise terms like that and don't have a strong attachment to the specific words or capitalization. For me, having a clear idea of the goals and not getting lost in the minutiae of the terminology is key; no matter which terms are used, everyone will find their own meaning.

@anildash any experts I see using the "advanced stuff" I view as wielding a foot-chainsaw (slightly tempered by your extremely valid 'how important is data consistency really' point, and how insanely great llms are at munging this stuff).

I've also seen way too many examples of people taking the "easy" stuff and applying the advanced stuff for non-experts, hence my trigger around it. 😅

@backupbear @anildash 100% agreed; the difference is that we don't have articles excited about latex or word star. ;-)

My markdown scars are entirely around devs doing [human] style transfer / cargo culting and saying "wow markdown is great for my github pages" / "therefore this will be great for people who call themselves 'writers'" Thankfully I haven't come across many examples of "I created an amazing CRM tool for Aunt Betty's online business, it uses LaTeX in the notes section." 😂