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I teach sand to think (mostly about investments)
@stux Is there a license agreement to join the fediverse? Ex. restrictions on how you can use data from other servers, how to use content licenses attached to posts?
@serklarvel @stux This would assume that they're offering no value other than a different mastodon client. I doubt that's the case.

@atomicpoet @fediversenews You're conflating a couple of different things:

  • Ownership of the content you create. You retain ownership of the content -- you can sell it to whomever you want.
  • License to distribute the content, and the terms under which it can be distributed. You signed all of that away when you accepted reddit's Terms of Service.
  • Continued availability of your content, and your ability to move the content to another provider. They have an export facility, so you can do this. Maybe not easily (you only get your content, not all the content in a thread or a subreddit; getting into another system would depend on how closely their data model equals reddit's)
  • The fediverse doesn't address point 1 or 2 at all -- those are the domain of the ToS for the particular Fediverse server you're on. It may not entirely address 3 either, since my understanding is that the server admin has to approve the migration of your account. If you want off of a server and onto another, it's possible that the server admin for the server you want off of could delay or prevent that. That a technical capability exists doesn't mean you'll be able to use it.

    This isn't a technical problem, it's an intellectual property contract problem. Reddit, and all of the social media services, are built on their ability to use your IP however they want without crediting or paying you for it. Full stop. Here's the paragraph from the Reddit ToS (for non-EU). tl;dr: Reddit can do whatever they want with whatever you post on reddit, forever, and no takebacks. (Moral rights are basically what you're trying to assert in your post, and you already explicitly waived them.)

    When Your Content is created with or submitted to the Services, you grant us a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, transferable, and sublicensable license to use, copy, modify, adapt, prepare derivative works of, distribute, store, perform, and display Your Content and any name, username, voice, or likeness provided in connection with Your Content in all media formats and channels now known or later developed anywhere in the world. This license includes the right for us to make Your Content available for syndication, broadcast, distribution, or publication by other companies, organizations, or individuals who partner with Reddit. You also agree that we may remove metadata associated with Your Content, and you irrevocably waive any claims and assertions of moral rights or attribution with respect to Your Content.

    "Reddit represents one of the largest data sets of just human beings talking about interesting things," Huffman said. "We are not in the business of giving that away for free."

    You and me, we're just data sets. Years of interaction with fellow human beings, building community, sharing insight and creativity…it’s all just data. Data to be mined and monetized.

    Huffman's not mad Reddit was scraped for a chatbot. He's mad he wasn't paid for the privilege. It's his data, you see. His. Not yours.

    @rasmus @Catwoman69y2k @itisiboller *informed* consent.

    @futurebird @mcrocker @davidbrin Saw this a while back on Peter Watt's blog :
    https://www.rifters.com/crawl/?p=10225
    Summary:
    * Consciousness exists as a delivery platform for feelings;
    * Feelings (Hunger, desire, fear, etc) exist as metrics of need;
    * Needs only exist pursuant to a persistence/survival imperative (i.e., it doesn’t matter if you’re about to starve unless you want to stay alive).

    If true, then providing a virtual machine on which to run consciousness would need to include some simulacra of those needs.

    I've always liked the idea that part of the function of consciousness is to rewrite the lower levels of brain function to meet the needs of the current environment (ex. I don't remember the drive home, because nothing novel happened and my consciousness never had to engage).

    No Moods, Ads or Cutesy Fucking Icons » The Aspirational Zombie.

    @meejah @doop evil mode, why choose?
    @Gartenberg You're not on twitter any more.
    @futurebird I had problems where I'd lose my place in the timeline if I clicked on the post to see the responses/rest of the thread. When I'm doing new reading, I'll generally skim multiple sites for interesting looking articles, right click them into new tabs, and once I've assembled my reading list start reading them. Kind of wish I could do the same thing with the web interface here -- have each thread open as a new column, and then close them.
    @Gartenberg Man, that makes me like you more. Love me some Blazing Saddles. Clevon Little's the best.