Honestly, Book V is like Doctor Strangelove's plan for the post-apocalyptic US breeding program
not sure I 100% subscribe to Plato's quite detailed covert collectivist eugenics scheme
Page 1071 onwards - the discussion of the tripartite soul (this is mostly what I'm reading for)
Bookmarking for later: Robin McKenna - 'A strong programme in political epistemology'
https://rbnmckenna86.substack.com/p/a-strong-programme-in-political-epistemology

A Strong Programme in Political Epistemology
Why the study of political belief keeps flattering the people doing it—and how to fix this
The Motivated ScepticJust making some notes here so I can find the passages I want again later. Pages 1062-3 of the Cooper-edited Plato Complete Works: the discussion of self-control.
Like - its' really funny how close this is to fash chud Roman statue avatar Twitter discourse - except the statue avatar dickheads haven't read Homer, so they blame woke translators for making Achilles too effeminate
again - there's actually nothing you can do in the public sphere that won't make somebody somewhere absolutely crazed with hatred. idk why humans are made that way, but we are.
this will be absolutely incomprehensible to anyone who hasn't followed this incredibly niche online beef, but I think if you write a Substack post that includes the lines "Who exactly mathematically informed him? Who let this BAFFLINGLY STUPID work get all the way to a PhD and beyond?" and then Tomer Schlank shows up to say "it was me, and I stand by it" you need to just take the L instead of doing this motte-and-bailey nonsense
Arguably some irony that Plato would clearly ban Homer, if he could, for presenting negative role models to The Youth, while the contemporary very online semi-literate fash have all persuaded themselves that Homer does nothing but present positive role models, and are furious with Emily Wilson and Christopher Nolan for suggesting otherwise
The stuff about how horrible Homer is and how poets all ought to be subjected to religious censorship remains bad imo