Larix

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@Paxil @randahl it is pretty disappointing but by the results of this election it would appear to be contagious and not something that's disappearing quickly. Try to have patience for your own self-preservation, too.
@Paxil @randahl
Yes but many people were never taught to question news sources. It wasn't just the right wing sounding nice to people with confusing platitudes and reality-tv-level dialog; Musk funded fake 'democratic' sites and sent out mass texts to turn people away. Portraying Harris as pro-Palestine to Israeli supporters and pro-Israel to Palestinian supporters, same with immigration views, trans rights...anything controversial. It wasn't lack of info as much as it was disinformation.

@[email protected] @randahl

The beginning of the end was Citizens United:
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/citizens-united-explained

Another cause:
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-secret-papers-of-lee-atwater-who-invented-the-scurrilous-tactics-that-trump-normalized

It's endless..
https://eagletonpoliticaljournal.rutgers.edu/culture/how-roger-stone-gave-rise-to-the-partisan-divide-of-today/

There was also the strategist that called for republican presidents to cut taxes and spend so democratic presidents would feel obliged to raise taxes and be the 'taking money from the people' party. I forget the name atm.

Trump is the crowning triumph of a corrupt legacy that started generations ago.

Citizens United, Explained

The 2010 Supreme Court decision further tilted political influence toward wealthy donors and corporations.

Brennan Center for Justice

@[email protected] @randahl

The US was founded by a wealthy oligarchy who cared only for wealthy white men. In the time since then, the country has attempted to move beyond its origins to become more diverse, inclusive, and lead by example. Several times in history, it did. Never perfect, but it was the 'dream' held by more than just wealthy narcissists. Unfortunately, refusing to acknowledge the ugly origins means it's gained power politically and dragged us backwards by a long way.

@BassRck66 @randahl

If this was X: PEANUT????!!!!

@randahl the problem is, half the country is convinced by persuasive false sources that he's innocent. The majority wouldn't be voting for him if they knew the facts. So it's not necessarily cultural, but a group of powerful people has been gaming the courts and taking advantage of the spread of info (and bad edu system) to undo democracy while most people believe they're saving the country. Be careful, because this will embolden similar attempts across the world, no matter how safe it seems.
@brad_frost actually, I wouldn't be so sure that we're the minority. While the Indoctrinated won using gerrymandering and the electoral college, the popular vote was not far off. The people who didn't vote, while disappointing, likely aren't rabid fans of Trump either. Trump had better recognize that while he stacks the government positions in his favor, it's the good graces of his popular lies that put him there, and if those are gone, the majority will be his enemies. Until then, keep hopeful.

@luckytran this doesn't just have to do with the wealth disparity but also the rise of the internet/alternative news sources. I remember my parents freaking out I had put my full name on Facebook...basically raised to be critical of new information sources.

Also there were limits to the shenanigans people could pull through dial-up.

@arsdeficiendi they also refer to the Left like it's one big, cooperative entity and we can somehow organize all these cool conspiracies to win in sneaky ways. I mean, if that's the case, why the heck were the 2020 primaries so bitter? Truth be told, I'm so far left I've probably fallen off the scale of American imagination. Voting Democrat IS my compromise!! I'm sick of catering to half a country that thinks that we should be thankful to them for leaving SS and Medicare in place.

@MissingThePt
I keep seeing articles like 'the Dems made me do it! We don't like being called idiots/racists/mysogynists/(insert word that they mysteriously never connect to politician of choice)!!!'

I mean if the reason you voted your rights away to an idiot is because you don't like being called an idiot, that really doesn't prove anything, does it?