Chris Marrin
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Retired-ish software engineer from Roku, Apple, Sony, SGI.
Recent transplant to California’s Central Coast.
Woodworker, tinkerer with Arduino, Raspberry Pi, ESP. Electronics hacker.
Contributor to WebGL and VRML standards. Wannabe participant in Metaverse standards.
This is the way
@Byebyehello @boscoandpeck of course if you work hard crafting the perfect prompt why not just write the code in the first place? 😄
This is just me not understanding why you’d want to give up the pleasure of writing beautiful code to a machine!
@Byebyehello @boscoandpeck yeah, it always seemed like on ST:TNG they were “programming” in a very high level abstraction. Of course they also had true AGI so there’s that. I have no doubt that AI will be helpful to programmers in the near future just like StackOverflow is today. But I disagree that it’s just a higher level of abstraction. It makes mistakes. If you know what you’re doing with a language like C you know what code will be generated.
@boscoandpeck I believe the jobs will come back or the company will fail and be replaced by another company that won’t make the same mistake. So no net job loss. As I’ve said before, in a few years we’re going to look back on this and have a good laugh. Sort of like disco!
@boscoandpeck I can imagine that in the short term some companies will try replacing entry level coders with LLM generated code. It will go horribly wrong and they will either successfully undo their mistake or go belly up. So in the long run I don’t think it will affect entry level (or any) programming positions at all.
AI may well help programmers write initial versions of some code, mocking up UI elements, etc. But then programmers will have to take over to finish the work.
@ericgoldman 60, drunk and having sex? Sorry, you can be 2 of those things but not all 3 😀
@harrymccracken absolutely. I agree that Lisa was a important step to Mac. I was referring to the “why did they have to cancel Lisa” responses. In fact there was a lot of serendipity at the time. If Xerox hadn’t let Steve Jobs see and adapt many of the features of the Star, there would have been no Lisa. If the Lisa had not been a flop Jobs probably would not have been ousted, allowing him to take over the Mac and make it the success that it turned out to be!
@compsci_discussions I used to code in Pascal a lot around 40 years ago. Looking at this code gave me real, visceral memories of those days. Weird!
@harrymccracken I don’t get all this unbridled love for the Lisa. It could never have been practical. It was an expensive proof-of-concept. It paved the way for the cost effective Mac. That’s all it ever was.
@futurebird I think trig might be the first time many kids first get introduced to irrational numbers. Up until then even algebra problems tended to give answers like 5 / 2 = 2.5 and such. Even 1 / 3 isn’t so bad since it’s a repeating sequence. How does a kid then deal with pi containing billions of digits which never repeat? At least that’s the concept I first found hard. Of course that was 50 years ago so maybe my memory has faded 😀
@gbxyz Someone needs to teach ChatGPT that not every story begins with “once upon a time”. Earlier today it started an “epic Greek poem” and now this. It almost seems like it was pre-trained that “this is how stories start”. Hmmm…