Stephen Michael KellatSomeone forked pumpio? WHY? https://activity.distopico.info/distopico/image/crGO5c0gQYO1cvMTt5ig1g
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Eugen Rochko@kat @alpacaherder pump.io has a lot of catching up to do. it's not compatible with ostatus... or activitypub... it's using "activitypump" which is outdated.. so yeah questionably choice to pick up that particular project instead of anything else that's around right now
Hallå Kitteh@gargron @kat @alpacaherder It explicitly has the aim to implement ActivityPub and it shouldn't be too much effort to accomplish. It's just that strugee is the main person making changes and he's pretty tied up.
If these people do it, great, pump can merge their changes.
The usual reason for forking is that some gatekeeper is not responsive, but they just forked out of the blue, there's no queue of unreviewed commits from them.
If these people do it, great, pump can merge their changes.
The usual reason for forking is that some gatekeeper is not responsive, but they just forked out of the blue, there's no queue of unreviewed commits from them.
Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)]@kat @alpacaherder From the link, I understand the reasoning, but transferring E14N's servers got caught up in Evan's work schedule, so most of the network nodes have been offline for over a year. At this point, forking seems like an exercise in futility.
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@lnxw48a1 @kat @alpacaherder I don't get the reasoning "people refer to Evan too much in discussions".
It's not because Evan has final say in anything, he has handed over the project. It's just that maybe some of the code needs his feedback because it's not clearly documented or tested. A fork won't resolve that, on the contrary it will just make communication and cooperation more difficult.
It's not because Evan has final say in anything, he has handed over the project. It's just that maybe some of the code needs his feedback because it's not clearly documented or tested. A fork won't resolve that, on the contrary it will just make communication and cooperation more difficult.
@alpacaherder @kat @lnxw48a1 Nobody insists on having a benevolent dictator. strugee is just the only person willing to take responsibility for the code base. Have they even asked him for the commit bit?
I'm not super angry about them forking, it just seems counterproductive. Everything they want to do is already registered as issues on the mother project, they could just start solving them. Now there are two places to track issues.
I'm not super angry about them forking, it just seems counterproductive. Everything they want to do is already registered as issues on the mother project, they could just start solving them. Now there are two places to track issues.
@alpacaherder @clacke @kat Pownce (did it best, but was acquihired), Jaiku (better than Twitter, but Google cut off its resources and let it wither), and I'm sure there were others that I did not try. I think Plurk came along later.
@lnxw48a1 @kat @alpacaherder I have read and heard several people lately reminiscing on the early days of microblogging, there were several things in the air in 2008, free and proprietary.
Probably that audio interview with evan recently, and that written interview @deadsuperhero had with @[email protected] .
Probably that audio interview with evan recently, and that written interview @deadsuperhero had with @[email protected] .
Hmm, https://changelog.com/podcast/257 is the Evan interview I was thinking of, I think, but it doesn't mention many networks.
The Changelog #257: The Power of Wikis, the Problem with Social Networks, and the Promise of A.I. with Evan Prodromou
Evan Prodromou has been involved in open source since the mid '90s. His open source travel guide – Wikitravel – grew up alongside Wikipedia and the web itself. In this episode, we hear Evan's history, try to solve open social networking once and for all, and learn how sprinkling a little artificial intelligence on to o...
https://medium.com/we-distribute/got-zot-mike-macgirvin-45287601ff19 is the interview with mike, but it only mentions appleseed and 6d apart from what has already been mentioned.
Bob JonkmanThe interview of @mike by @deadsuperhero is *really* good! https://medium.com/we-distribute/got-zot-mike-macgirvin-45287601ff19
Why we need fully-qualified user names in !GNUsocial. @mike is not the @[email protected] who I meant.
@bobjonkman It is the same person, though!
I didn't know that, so it's a happy coincidence. Still, we can't expect that all the @[email protected] IDs go the right person by seridipity
It's too late for posting -- all the coffee has worn off. "Serendipity"
@bobjonkman @clacke I've been saying for years that hiding the server portion is bad for federation (because of the problem you just exposed and also because people using various instances become less aware of the federated nature of the network).
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@clacke I remember trying #Appleseed. It was a lot broader in its functionality than most microblogging sites, though many things were not yet working.
I remember looking at #6D, but I did not ever try it.
I remember looking at #6D, but I did not ever try it.
@bobjonkman Nope. :-)
INACTIVE@bobjonkman Hey, thanks! There's more in the pipeline with other parts of the network.
@lnxw48a1 @kat @alpacaherder I found some posts from 2008 and the hot names seem to have been Pownce, Jaiku, Plurk, Twitter, FriendFeed and "identi.ca" (federation is hard to grasp!). Also tumblr, if one includes that in microblogging.
Here's one:
http://conniebensen.com/2008/07/04/twitter-friendfeed-jaiku-pownce-plurk-identica/
Wow, didn't know Bambuser existed already back in 2008:
https://bambuser.blogspot.com/2008/09/integration-with-friendfeed-identica.html
I see surprisingly little talk of Yammer, which launched in 2008, but maybe is wasn't well-known until 2009. I remember considering it the greatest threat to StatusNet, which wasn't a name for GS until 2009.
I happened upon the point in history where @forteller entered the Fediverse for the first time. :-)
https://pthree.org/2008/07/02/identica/
Here's one:
http://conniebensen.com/2008/07/04/twitter-friendfeed-jaiku-pownce-plurk-identica/
Wow, didn't know Bambuser existed already back in 2008:
https://bambuser.blogspot.com/2008/09/integration-with-friendfeed-identica.html
I see surprisingly little talk of Yammer, which launched in 2008, but maybe is wasn't well-known until 2009. I remember considering it the greatest threat to StatusNet, which wasn't a name for GS until 2009.
I happened upon the point in history where @forteller entered the Fediverse for the first time. :-)
https://pthree.org/2008/07/02/identica/
March 2009:
> With services such as Qaiku, Twitbear, Bloggy and others being created it shows that the vacuum created by Jaiku’s downtime has created a new market for microblogging.
https://social.heldscal.la/url/906536
> With services such as Qaiku, Twitbear, Bloggy and others being created it shows that the vacuum created by Jaiku’s downtime has created a new market for microblogging.
https://social.heldscal.la/url/906536
Qaiku.com – YAJC (Yet Another Jaiku Clone) | ArcticStartup
Eero Holmila, CEO of Rohea showed me Qaiku.com a few weeks back when it was still in closed beta. Now it seems to have opened up to open beta and is accepting registrations. With services such as Qaiku, Twitbear, Bloggy and others being created it shows that the vacuum created by Jaiku's downtime has created a new market for microblogging. The downside for the community of course is that the whole market is now very fragmented and thus the value in each new service is lower to the individual from the network point of view. Nevertheless, let's have a look at Qaiku.com - it's one of the best clones of Jaiku out there, I must say. It's still got some issues however. For example, you have to know Finnish to change the language at the front page to English, it's hidden there in the drop down menu. Once you sign after registration it's very similar to the Jaiku user interface. In addition to taking the best of Jaiku, there are small new improvements which in my opinion are very welcome. One
@lnxw48a1 That'll be good. Evan is highly intelligent and couldn't figure out some of those big problems. We need more eyes together.
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@lnxw48a1 @alpacaherder Yeah, it was great to see them show up on IRC and patch everything up.