morph
Cambiame a https://gnusocial.villanos.net/colegota@morph interesting, but ¿maybe expensive?
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@colegota @hobbsc It’s common OSRAM T8/G13 LED tubes, 6500K, 22W … not so expensive. https://gs.morphtown.de/url/70763
Hi people at !grow and !chili After read this thread by @morph I'm thinking in trying to grow my own using a non-working old fish tank.
I'd like to have opinions and suggestions about it.
The tube light system does not work, the idea it's to use the empty tank without cover.
For light I'm not sure if buy an all-in-one" compact tube [1] or maybe made a combination of linear lights [2].
Also read that combinations of blue and red leds are better that just white.
What do you recommend?
[1] https://quitter.es/url/710121 https://quitter.es/attachment/710118
[2] http://www.leroymerlin.es/productos/iluminacion/iluminacion_interior/tiras_de_led.html
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I'd like to have opinions and suggestions about it.
The tube light system does not work, the idea it's to use the empty tank without cover.
For light I'm not sure if buy an all-in-one" compact tube [1] or maybe made a combination of linear lights [2].
Also read that combinations of blue and red leds are better that just white.
What do you recommend?
[1] https://quitter.es/url/710121 https://quitter.es/attachment/710118
[2] http://www.leroymerlin.es/productos/iluminacion/iluminacion_interior/tiras_de_led.html
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Mikael@mikael @morph have been looking at a big store and found this options for LED illumination:
.- 5m strip 6000ºK 1400lm 35€
.- 5m 3400lm 80€
.- 90cm tube 1000lm 18€
.- 5m RGB (you can choose the color) 40€
I'm thinking in use a rectangular surface like a shelf and paste lights at bottom (not sure if use the fish tank cover) maybe alternating 1m strips between white light with RGB in red or blue color.
The 80€ strips give more lumen (3400) while double price. I can afford it if necessary. While 3 tubes (not the old but modern ones) gives 3000lm for 54€ but more space and volume.
Any suggestions?
!grow !chili
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.- 5m strip 6000ºK 1400lm 35€
.- 5m 3400lm 80€
.- 90cm tube 1000lm 18€
.- 5m RGB (you can choose the color) 40€
I'm thinking in use a rectangular surface like a shelf and paste lights at bottom (not sure if use the fish tank cover) maybe alternating 1m strips between white light with RGB in red or blue color.
The 80€ strips give more lumen (3400) while double price. I can afford it if necessary. While 3 tubes (not the old but modern ones) gives 3000lm for 54€ but more space and volume.
Any suggestions?
!grow !chili
!huerto (en casa)
@colegota Wow, 3400lm is massive. Well, suggestion is not easy to make. Best would be to buy all of them and test (joke). For me 6500K tubes work out fine because I nainly got them for seedlings until I can get them into greenhouse and outdoor bed. As far as people say that have tested lights for pure indoor growing (peppers/weed): (1.) sodium-vapor lamp (2.) flourescent light tubes (3.) LED ... in that order referring to quality of plants. Every solution has pros and contras like price, energy consumption, heat emission, quicksilver, lifetime etc.
@colegota @morph those are very low output. You will need lots of them. The strip I use is 13500 lumen over 5 m. I have the strip placed about 15-20 cm over the plant. Each shelf is about 50 cm x 10 cm and the output from the 45 diods is 1350 lumen. About 20000 lux on each shelf. The spread on the ones I listed is 120°. http://www.rapidtables.com/calc/light/lumen-to-lux-calculator.htm
@mikael @colegota OMG, I thought that’d be the lumen that one finished lamp of them would give.
@mikael> Wow, 3400lm is massive.
@morph> those are very low output. You will need lots of them. The strip I use is 13500 lumen over 5 m.
Are we talking about the same? :)
Well, my fish tank it's 100x40 cm wide and 48 depth. I was thinking in using it first to bread the seeds (maybe with the cover to keep humidity) and later for grow (removing the cover).
How much lumen do you think I need for it?
@morph, while the cover had before a couple of fluorescent tubes, it did not work any more so I can't use normal LED tubes with old design.
@morph> those are very low output. You will need lots of them. The strip I use is 13500 lumen over 5 m.
Are we talking about the same? :)
Well, my fish tank it's 100x40 cm wide and 48 depth. I was thinking in using it first to bread the seeds (maybe with the cover to keep humidity) and later for grow (removing the cover).
How much lumen do you think I need for it?
@morph, while the cover had before a couple of fluorescent tubes, it did not work any more so I can't use normal LED tubes with old design.
@colegota Not all LED tubes fit in any socket for flourescent light tubes. It’s got to do with that thing https://gs.morphtown.de/url/76196 ... all old flouro lights need a starter which LEDs don’t.
@colegota @morph Aim for > 20000 lux. A 0.4 m2 area need 20000*0.4 = 8000 lumen hitting exactly that 0.4m2 area. http://www.growweedeasy.com/lux-meter for some figures.
@mikael @morph
I finally bought an specialized lamp for !grow !chili
https://quitter.es/attachment/759914
!huerto #huertoencasa
I finally bought an specialized lamp for !grow !chili
https://quitter.es/attachment/759914
!huerto #huertoencasa
@mikael @morph
It's a box with different colour leds mixing red, blue, orange and yellow, 90 in total giving 90W and 8500 lumen
The box also contains a fan that makes a little noise (just the wind, but I don't like that so much)
https://quitter.es/attachment/759922
It's a box with different colour leds mixing red, blue, orange and yellow, 90 in total giving 90W and 8500 lumen
The box also contains a fan that makes a little noise (just the wind, but I don't like that so much)
https://quitter.es/attachment/759922
Here are the specifications for my "full spectrum" !grow #led
Especificaciones de mi led para crecimiento de plantas
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https://quitter.es/attachment/766022
Especificaciones de mi led para crecimiento de plantas
!huerto #huertoencasa
https://quitter.es/attachment/766022
Y ahora en Español para los que os va el tema del !huerto
Que me he comprado una lámpara especializada en crecimiento de plantas en interior para cultivar #guindillas y similares como hacen en los grupos de !grow !chili
#huertoencasa
Veremos lo que tarda @fanta en darme la chapa para que lo conecte a !gnusocial ;) https://quitter.es/attachment/759914
Que me he comprado una lámpara especializada en crecimiento de plantas en interior para cultivar #guindillas y similares como hacen en los grupos de !grow !chili
#huertoencasa
Veremos lo que tarda @fanta en darme la chapa para que lo conecte a !gnusocial ;) https://quitter.es/attachment/759914
Asnoru Deconstruyendo@asnoru tenía, ya no me queda :(
@colegota Hehe … the nightclub solution. I think it looks awesome. I’m curious about the growings. Care about air circulation in the tank.
@morph> Hehe … the nightclub solution
Well, my friends says that truck drivers will stop under my window. ;)
It's an idea to amortize the investment.
My aim it's to put the tank cover while seeds germination, and later without the cover when growing. Then maybe I'll need some fan inside.
Well, my friends says that truck drivers will stop under my window. ;)
It's an idea to amortize the investment.
My aim it's to put the tank cover while seeds germination, and later without the cover when growing. Then maybe I'll need some fan inside.
@colegota It depends upon how much natural light will get to your plants. The less natural light the more important will be a combination from e.g. a red planting light tube and a cold white one. I think just the white LED row is not enough, better get tubes, also cheap oldschool flourescent tubes are possible. Of course if one wants to invest, they can always get optimized fancy stuff like that … https://gs.morphtown.de/url/75479
@morph @mikael no much natural light. All my windows are North oriented, while the window at this room it's wide, it's indirect light.
I'd like the idea of use LED as a way of less power consumption instead of fluorescent or old light systems.
About colors, did read that blue was better for glow and red for blossom. Then my idea was to combine in some rows of that linear strips. But using red and blue lights maybe convert my room in a night club. ;)
Maybe with those strips I can play with use different colours at different times, and also maybe with those ones RGB that you can change the colour at any moment.
Also read that hight temperature whites (around 6000ºK) are also good.
I'm totally mess now! :)
I'd like the idea of use LED as a way of less power consumption instead of fluorescent or old light systems.
About colors, did read that blue was better for glow and red for blossom. Then my idea was to combine in some rows of that linear strips. But using red and blue lights maybe convert my room in a night club. ;)
Maybe with those strips I can play with use different colours at different times, and also maybe with those ones RGB that you can change the colour at any moment.
Also read that hight temperature whites (around 6000ºK) are also good.
I'm totally mess now! :)
@colegota An own night club in your home is not that bad. :)