Tech journalists on Mastodon: "Mastodon Inc only has 50,000 users, but with adequate venture capital funding it may stand a chance"
More tech journalism on Mastodon: "Mastodon is currently a free service, but soon it will bend to the iron will of Silicon Valley, which is that you either sell out to investors or become irrelevant like Wikipedia."
Still more tech journalism on Mastodon: "Mastodon cannot survive with such a silly name. It needs a more serious and business-friendly name, such as Google, Yahoo, or Hulu."
It's almost as if tech journalists do the bare minimum of research before moving on to the next topic. Or that the tech industry has become so focused on chasing giant piles of money that nobody can remember a time when true successes on the internet were achieved by hobbyists working on passion projects with no regard for how much money they might make

@nolan
Tech journalism has become business journalism (unfortunately, since tech & business are mostly unrelated).

You can check with currently-working tech journalists on here but I assume some of the shallowness can be attributed to short deadlines. ( @sonya & @klintron can verify or refute)

@enkiv2 @klintron @sonya Yeah and of course I'm not riffing on all tech journalists; there are good ones. But man when I look up "news" articles about Mastodon sometimes it's really depressing.

@nolan
I'm suggesting more of a systemic issue.

When people I *know* are intelligent, careful, deep thinkers whose opinions I respect nevertheless write bad, shallow articles, I can't blame the authors and have to blame capitalism. (Or the structure of the industry or whatever.)

@nolan @sonya @enkiv2 A certain amount of "shallowness" also stems from the fact that there's only so-much detail you can cram into an article with fewer than 1,000 words, especially when those words are written in a few hours.
@enkiv2 @sonya @nolan Even with relatively long deadlines and high word counts, there's always going to be stuff that gets left out or glossed over. Sarah Jeong's Mastodon piece was over 3,000 words and there were still lots of things that she didn't cover. Seems like she got a lot of grief for that.

@nolan @sonya @enkiv2 Actually, looking through the stories I can find on Mastodon, I can't find *any* that say it's going to fail because it doesn't have VC, or even any that give Masto's lack of VC funding more than a passing mention.
www.theverge.com/2017/4/4/15177856/mastodon-social-network-twitter-clone

mashable.com/2017/04/04/mastodon-twitter-social-network/

www.wired.com/2017/04/like-twitter-hate-trolls-try-mastodon/

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@enkiv2 @nolan @klintron yep, short deadlines. it's a huge problem.
@sonya @enkiv2 @nolan Short deadlines are a problem for all journalists.
@nolan @enkiv2 @sonya TBH, the few articles I've read about Masto weren't about VC at all, so I'm a little unsure what the all the fuss is about (but I certainly haven't read every article out there)

@sonya @enkiv2 @nolan qz.com/951078/the-complete-guide-to-using-mastodon-the-twitter-twtr-alternative/

www.networkworld.com/article/3188766/open-source-tools/mastodonthe-free-software-decentralized-twitter-competitor.html

www.dailydot.com/debug/mastodon-open-source-social-media/

www.digitaljournal.com/tech-and-science/technology/mastodon-is-an-open-alternative-to-twitter/article/490546

@enkiv2 @sonya @nolan re: "tech & business are mostly unrelated." I don't even know how to respond to that. You think that technology isn't a major part of basically every business around today? Or that business considerations don't shape everything from hardware manufacture to user interface design?

@klintron @nolan @sonya

There's a circumstantial alignment of concerns. But tech is about as related to business as cooking is: both can be vital to businesses on both a minor and industrial scale (and more people eat than use computers), & certain segments are more integrated than others.

But restaurant reviews don't focus on catering & cookbooks don't focus on fast food, because the focus is on the end user in the normal case.

@sonya @nolan @klintron

Or, for another comparison, consider film journalism. Film is big business, and you get a certain amount of inside-baseball about the industry, but the ratio of inside-baseball to technical analysis in mainstream film journalism is lower than that of tech.

@enkiv2 @nolan @sonya The film industry comparison is more apt. There is a ton of non-business-y tech coverage, but there's a lot more tech biz coverage than there is coverage of most other industries. For most industries, business talk is relegated to trade publications, but that's not so in tech.
@sonya @nolan @enkiv2 A few inter-related things play into that, I think. For one, the biz side does matter more in tech than in, say, film. Who you get funding from will shape your company more than who you get funding from will shape your film. For another, a surprisingly large number of people are interested in reading insider basebally articles on the tech industry.
@enkiv2 @nolan @sonya That's led to the growth of sites like TechCrunch, which are essentially trade pubs but have a crossover audience of mainstream readers. So there ends up being a context collapse. A lot of tech coverage is the tech equivalent of the business briefs section of something like Oil and Gas magazine, but on the web, a link is a link. There's no difference between a business brief in a trade pub and a long read from something like the New Yorker.

@klintron @sonya @nolan

& it's strange, since tech is more like cooking (i.e., most people who code aren't professionals even if most code is written by pros, there's a long shallow climb in difficulty/exclusivity between amateur & professional, & the industry has many varied important organizations instead of a few very similar ones).

Seeing Wired cover Zuckerberg feels like seeing the CEO of McDonalds on the cover of a cookbook.

@nolan @sonya @klintron

What makes it stranger is that in the 70s & 80s there *was* a trade/hobbyist division in tech mags, even though the industry was much more movie-like in the 70s (with micros being the indie scene but the real players being the seven dwarves, and with even playing with micros being a big investment)

@enkiv2 @sonya @nolan Don't get me wrong, lots of stuff in tech gets built just for fun, and a lot of that stuff ends up reshaping basically everything else (Homebrew Computer Club, Linux, the web, Hadoop, Node.js, and with any luck, Mastodon, just to name a few things). But the stuff people use on a day to day basis? Deeply shaped by business.

@nolan

1. In the 1990's, I would also get press releases directly from MS and Apple. I also got the WSJ. Mossberg's columns and big tech co press releases were almost identical.

2. A few years ago, MS came out with Sway. About 100 posts in tech journals had headlines "It's a PowerPoint killer!"

I played with the software for 15 minutes. It was immediately clear that it was not a PowerPoint killer, but a PowerPoint companion.

And we never heard about Sway again.

@nolan Jurnalism generally became a news, political, economic, technological and ideological lobby machine. It's not anymore about writing level or professional approach.
@nolan It's almost like journalism these days is fucking aids. Also, water is wet, more news at 11.
@nolan I get an picture that those journalists have never heard what github is or about this thing called open source
@nolan You're forgetting that "tech journalism" is more like "product reports with advertisement alongside". It has basically nothing to do with journalism - even less so any kind of investigative such.

@mmn @nolan
Is this really accurate?

I mean, yeah, there's a subset of tech journalism that's basically product placement/reviews, & thus isn't any better than video game or movie reviews in terms of encouraging content. But very little interesting tech comes out of businesses, so there's at least some non-payola-driven stuff going on.

Even big orgs like ars technica & wired have a huge quality range -- you can tell by word count which articles are fluff.

@nolan I keep tech journalism in the same bin as gaming journalism: the garbage bin.
@nolan Many journalists are payed per article they write, instead of being actually employed. Since news agencies often do not pay well for the articles they do take, writing quick and dirty pays off for the journalist.
@Wifi_cable can confirm. The #MediaWatch show on #RadioNZ reported last year that the number of fulltime PR flacks employed in #Aotearoa is significantly higher than the number of fulltime journalists.
@nolan
@strypey @nolan I do not know a whole lot about the media in New Zealand., (being in Europe and all) .Could it be that you meant to tag someone else ?

@Wifi_cable sorry for necroposting ;) I was responding to an old reply to Nolan where you said:

> Many journalists are payed per article they write, instead of being actually employed.