Richard Paul BäckDec 9, 2016
@ladygaga although you've got #PizzaGate trending on #gnusocialde, please stop posting #SpiritCooking related images. Those are #AbsolutelyDisgusting.

For people who are interested in the child trafficking and pedophile Activities of the #DemocraticParty and #JohnPodesta: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiLNkIiyKuU
Show threadAshokaDec 9, 2016
@richardbaeck pizzagate is a 4chan hoax you idiot
Show threadRichard Paul BäckDec 9, 2016
@ashoka Is there any evidence that it's actually hoax? The arguments for #PizzaGate are overwhelming.

I've seen one video of a guy who claims to has "debunked" PizzaGate just by saying it's a CIA setup. So basically he makes out of a conspiracy an even larger conspiracy to chill people down.
Show threadAshokaDec 9, 2016
@richardbaeck the lack of evidence is the greatest sign, the fact that no victims or insiders are coming forward, which usually happens with these scandals. if you want a true pedophilia scandal to latch onto, try anonymous' #OpDeatheaters.
It's been debunked by Snopes, the NYT and the police.
first and loudest proponents are anti-dems, and it all started with a tweet from an alt-right account that got popular on 4chan.
Show threadRichard Paul BäckDec 9, 2016
@ashoka You mean this #NewYorkTimes article: https://gnusocial.de/url/3341933 ? It's a bunch of Non-arguments gathered with Alefantis' claims that he not a pedophile. I can't read any counter evidence any other than "he received many death threats, he must be a poor guy".
Show threadAshokaDec 9, 2016
@richardbaeck excuse me, you must debunk all the debunkings not just one.
Show threadRichard Paul BäckDec 9, 2016
@ashoka I don't know the article of Snopes, but I would be happy if you post a link.

To the police statement: the head of the justice department is the main investor of those venues. So it might be a lie.
Show threadAshokaDec 9, 2016
@richardbaeck "might" be, those are life-destroying accusations. give me stuff to chew on or begone. your teacher would laugh at these so-called arguments of your.
Show threadRichard Paul BäckDec 9, 2016
@ashoka I didn't state that I am right. I stated that the evidence for it are overwhelming (see Youtube videos). I welcome any statement that it clearly debunks the entire discussion about #PizzaGate other than "yea, he received death threats".

>life-destroying auccusations

Then in future we better never accuse anyone every again, because lifes might get destroyed!
Show threadAshokaDec 9, 2016
@richardbaeck misrepresenting arguments gets you nowhere. youtube videos are not a reliable source, also, they are a secondary source. what are the sources of the makers of those videos?
where are the victims?
why wouldn't even conservative foxnews goafter it?
Show threadRichard Paul BäckDec 9, 2016
@ashoka >misrepresenting arguments gets you nowhere.
What do you mean?

Why aren't #Youtube videos reliable for you? The things stated in the video I've posted are sound to me.

>Where are the victims?
Killed and buried?

#FoxNews would kill itself if they go for it. There is not sufficient evidence to actually indict someone. Therefore everyone would label them as a conspiracy theorists and will cost them probably thousands of viewers. If that's not enough for you: why wasn't FoxNews totally on the #TrumpTrains too?
Show threadAshokaDec 9, 2016

@richardbaeck interpreting "accusations of pedophilia are life destroying, so you better have good evidence" as "we should not accuse anybody ever".

i already said why i don't trust youtube videos.

lack of evidence and conspiracy theories have never stopped fox news.
so you admit there is not enough evidence?

"buried and killed" lel where? or did you just assume that? who was killed and buried, gimme names.

Show threadRichard Paul BäckDec 9, 2016
@ashoka That's not interpreting that's just my argument on it.

You stated that #Youtube videos have "no accountability,a hotbed of propaganda and biased editing". I don't disagree fully on that with you as I stated, the posted video looks sound to me.

Don't know if "lack of evidence and conspiracy theories have never stopped fox news" is true, I don't watch #FoxNews all the time.

>so you admit there is not enough evidence?
Of course! But I certainly think that the evidence, that is already there, is very interesting and upsetting.

>or did you just assume that?
Of course I assumed it. Otherwise there would have been an indictment, wouldn't it?
Show threadAshokaDec 9, 2016

@richardbaeck yeah that's the problem, you are just assuming things.
I looked at part o the video.
what part of it was supposed to be convincing?
the symbols for pedophiles looking a bit like the logos of pizza laces that aren't even comet ping pong?
the girl lovers symbol doesn't even look like the pizza place symbol other than that both are hearts.

this is Illuminati Pyramids all over again.
this is poem interpretation level of "solid evidence"

this symbology crap is ridiculous.

Show threadAshokaDec 9, 2016
@richardbaeck it encapsulates every problem with conspiracies, recognizing tiny patterns.
the bookstore is so ridiculous as well.
the symbol isn't even turning in the right direction.
also the ping pong pizza place logo doesn't even look like a butterfly, it's literally two bats crossed.
Show threadRichard Paul BäckDec 9, 2016
@ashoka The symbol claim for the ping pong place is really bad, that's true. But two places next to each other having such logos and actually change the logos AFTER #PizzaGate got trending. That's really suspicious. Why changing them? Why taking down the #Instagram images? If this all is such a conspiracy and none of it is true it wouldn't make sense to actually feed the fire by "admitting" that they did something wrong.

Again, I am not convinced that this is all true, but it seems that it might be.
Show threadAshokaDec 9, 2016
@richardbaeck the evidence so far:
podesta, who works for clinton, has been to that place to raise money for elections.
two other unrelated places have logos of hearts and triangles, there is a bookstore that has an ampersand, too.
one of them has a registered agent that fights child trafficking.
the owner of one place has weird pictures. so? none of them are child porn.
you can see how ridiculous this looks. this is wild conjecture and meanwhile some dude shot the place up.
Show threadAshoka
@richardbaeck people could have died as a consequence of something that has only flimsy hints when you squint.
and it's being propagated on 4chan and reddit.
i retract the statement that this is a hoax. this is a conspiracy theory.
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