Igor Hawks β
so, for my taste, the answer on the question "what tuning is better?" - the answer is "depends" !
HRH ginsterbusch@IgorHawks add a few chunks of modern hifi in front of it, and just use autotunes and an equalizer? :D #tuning #music #musick #noise
kepstinβ―@IgorHawks you'll probably only get that impression if the two notes/tunings are played next to each-other. If played in isolation with no other reference, you probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference unless you have perfect pitch. The ratios between notes will stay the same in both tunings, and that's what people notice.
@kepstin I have perfect pitch, and 432 sounds way more moody (because i percieve it as minor) in minor key songs, doesn't work like that in other types of songs thogh
πΆγγγπΆ@IgorHawks I usually play violin at 442, so 440 version seems more comfortable. 432 is bit weird for me :p
Carol Chen π°ππ€π@IgorHawks 432 sounds mellower than 440 in the video. Pitch inflation has occurred throughout history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concert_pitch#Pitch_inflation
and it's only getting "worse" https://music.stackexchange.com/questions/776/why-are-orchestras-tuned-differently
d1d4c@igorhawks minor/major version? What do you mean?
@d1d4c 432 sounds more sensetive, in compare with the equal 440 temperament, which sounds happy
@igorhawks
Well, every instrument have its resonance box. If you change its master pitch, you should change its measures,,, then you can compare. Do you know what I mean? But, any way, is it happiest a C than a B? Is it happiest a circle than a square or a pentagonal dodecahedron?
Well, every instrument have its resonance box. If you change its master pitch, you should change its measures,,, then you can compare. Do you know what I mean? But, any way, is it happiest a C than a B? Is it happiest a circle than a square or a pentagonal dodecahedron?
@d1d4c Higher B is happier than Lower C, because higher pitch is happier than lower pitch, circle is happier than square, because circle has no corners, and corners associate with aggression and spikes, but what resonance harmonics of EACH individual instrument, not just a class, has to do with master pitch? I purposely asking, because I have a music production and post production degree, so i' interested what do you mean by that :)
@igorhawks "higher pitch is happier than lower pitch" I do not understand the pitch in those terms. I find it too deterministic and reductionist. Beauty or happiness are abstract concepts too subjective to be able to make such a categorical statement.
On the other hand, we are talking about the pitch in a musical environment. Music is not empirical, it is aesthetic and it responds to some canons according to the historical and political period. Although for a listener at a given moment, he or she would listen to a particular music, it could acquire some semantic meaning, the music itself, let alone if we focus on an aspect as isolated as the pitch without regard to the rest of circumstances, it can not have a meaning of its own.
On the other hand, we are talking about the pitch in a musical environment. Music is not empirical, it is aesthetic and it responds to some canons according to the historical and political period. Although for a listener at a given moment, he or she would listen to a particular music, it could acquire some semantic meaning, the music itself, let alone if we focus on an aspect as isolated as the pitch without regard to the rest of circumstances, it can not have a meaning of its own.
@d1d4c if you have not seen this yet, you might be interested https://youtu.be/TBt6APk21tU
@igorhawks
But this is an other topic. It's not about master pitch, it's about temperament :)
But this is an other topic. It's not about master pitch, it's about temperament :)
@igorhawks
As for the master tuning of a given instrument in relation to its soundboard, keep in mind that the instrument itself has a set parameters, while the master tuning is variable. However, the instrument has been ideally built to bring out its full sonic potential in a fixed tuning. That is why the master tuning only accepts very narrow variations, often to compensate for the detune because of the ambient temperature.
As for the master tuning of a given instrument in relation to its soundboard, keep in mind that the instrument itself has a set parameters, while the master tuning is variable. However, the instrument has been ideally built to bring out its full sonic potential in a fixed tuning. That is why the master tuning only accepts very narrow variations, often to compensate for the detune because of the ambient temperature.