@Ashoka @Lanthus
So, I think it's sort of complicated in an interesting way, but it's related to cultural insularity & economic status.
From the 60s to the 80s, programmers were basically always from upper class backgrounds -- college students in an era where college education was rare. The following generation was mostly latch-key kids from the middle class. Both groups have reason to systematically undervalue their time.
@Lanthus @Ashoka
This sort of feeds into post-arcade video game culture too: if you can afford the box, then mastery is mostly a matter of time spent. Combine fetishization of self-sufficiency with many years of childhood spent mostly in self-directed learning & you get a recipe for systematically undervaluing competence.
Most people's time isn't cheap enough to make mastery of these things sensible inside *or* outside of childhood.
@Ashoka @Lanthus
But, for a programmer, starting before 18 & not needing to bring down an income until after 25 is almost a necessity. Lots of learning has to be front-loaded before a dev is not a net liability to any project they're on. (About 10 years worth.)
If you did your 10 years when you were 10, it's easy to forget.
@Lanthus Use python's turtle module to sew things.
Would be pretty cool
@b_cavello @Lanthus It largely is though.
Software/technology that's paid for usually includes some sort of support. If it breaks, it gets fixed at the vendor's expense.
@b_cavello @Lanthus Ahh, but that's a different problem domain.
Vehicles, healthcare, power, water, those things are very very difficult to create and maintain efficiently, and "Do It Yourself" is hardly an option.
Culture - books, music, art, and games - very much IS a "Do It Yourself" sphere. That's what art is all about - people creating and expressing.
So if you don't like a piece of culture, just make a better one. That's always worked, far as I know.
@b_cavello @Lanthus For eg if you were paying me a monthly fee for something, and it broke, I can't tell you to "go fix it yourself".
First thing you'd do is cancel and demand a refund, and rightly so.
@Lanthus I actually did learn to sew for precisely that reason
I might be horrible
or smart
or horribly smart
or smartly horrible?
@Lanthus tbh that's basically what Popular Mechanics magazine was in the 1950s.
"Want a swimming pool with a poolside radio? Here's how to build one with a shovel and some war surplus radar valves"
@Lanthus lulz "learn a sewing language" that's perfect
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