Anybody feel like chatting about how the theory/reality of an inherently non-binary gender structure actually makes all humans "non-binary" regardless of identity and how does this related to people who currently identify as NB? If yes, I'll be here.

@Marinaisgo I have thoughts. Also have neglected chores. Will, however, throw one thought into mix and look forward to seeing how this thread develops:

I identify as ternary, moreso than NB. Whatever my third gender might be termed, it doesn't fall anywhere on a linear "spectrum" bounded and defined by our culture's two assignable genders.

The anchoring of NB in terms of binary poles seems a rather (un)queer way of not identifying with a binary, from where I'm standing, anyway.

@beadsland I totally agree re the lack of queerness in NB insofar as it serves to uphold the concept of the gender binary through opposition. In order to have non-binary people, you must have a real binary to be not of

But we live in a world where the majority of peopl take the gender binary as universal fact. The concept of non-binary doesn't compute, even to a good number of trans and other LGB people. So how do we explain there's no binary in the first place?

@Marinaisgo Am not sure that explaining is most productive mode to pursue. Binariness is so ingrained in out episteme, even apart from the specific case of gender, that we may want to look to demonstrating (again, rather than explaining) broader enumerations in thinking more generally.

Am thinking of Deleuze reading of Hume's conjunctive: How to recast our culture's ever-present "or" with a proliferation of "and" in the course of lived discourse? How to queer binarinormativity?

@beadsland That does seem like it would be the practical real world solution. Rather than trying to turn the tides of perception on a theoretical level, just demonstrate the conclusion. In other words, be more openly queer.