(moved) boots‮🌸🌿‭
i will fight every single person suggesting that a "reputation score" is the way to fix abuse
have you been on reddit ever
Apr 11, 2017 at 4:45pmWeb
Show thread(moved) boots‮🌸🌿‭Apr 11, 2017
reputation scores are a way to instate a supergroup of people who have made their way to the top and will never ever come down
reputation scores are a way to put down people who have been branded as "bad" by some unknown entity down even further
reputation scores are basically literally How To Create A Bourgeoisie 101
Show thread(moved) boots‮🌸🌿‭Apr 11, 2017

people with a high reputation score will "always be right" and people with a low reputation score are always "bad"

it's just a number to tell you what to think of someone

Show thread(moved) boots‮🌸🌿‭Apr 11, 2017
having reputation scores is a fucking black mirror episode
like im not making a comparison of what it's like
there's literally a black mirror episode about it, iirc
Show thread(moved) boots‮🌸🌿‭Apr 11, 2017
also: it's federated. someone can just fucking set the reputation score to send to others if they own their own instance???
Show threadOracle(tm) e-Business Social 🎃Apr 11, 2017
@b i have $MAX_INT reputation, believe me ;)
Show thread(moved) boots‮🌸🌿‭Apr 11, 2017
@KitRedgrave i have ">'><xmp> reputation
Show threadjosefApr 11, 2017
@b if your idea is a black mirror episode it means its not even "bad" its just a punchline
Show threadmalokiApr 11, 2017
@b it's the first episode even.
Show threadIan LittmanApr 11, 2017
@b Can confirm. Watched the Black Mirror episode.
Show threadjonApr 11, 2017
@b and they all tend to have "rich get richer" dynamics
Show threadFrancis BartonApr 11, 2017
@b remember klout? :-(
Show thread(moved) boots‮🌸🌿‭Apr 11, 2017
@oddhack i try not to
Show threadAlex EnkerliApr 13, 2017
@oddhack Technically, #klout still exists, though they deemphasized scores. But #Klouchebag is gone, sadly enough. Used it while working as a community manager to clue in my boss.
Show threadpettter ✅Apr 12, 2017
@b Mostly, it's ridiculously easy to game such a system.
Show threadOracle(tm) e-Business Social 🎃Apr 11, 2017
@b ⬇️
Show threadg z thompsonApr 11, 2017
@b right??? it's like, "reputation scores" are a way to institutionalize abuse.
Show threadThracky SpackoidApr 11, 2017
@b but Peeple was the best social networking idea ever.
Show threadjamesApr 11, 2017
@b would just link them to http://buildingreputation.com/ and ask if they have a design that properly addresses issues raised in these works
Show thread⚗️⚗️⚗️ pnathan ⚗️⚗️⚗️Apr 11, 2017
@b stackoverflow, hacker news, digg...
Show thread(moved) boots‮🌸🌿‭Apr 11, 2017
@pnathan And none of those have issues?
Show thread⚗️⚗️⚗️ pnathan ⚗️⚗️⚗️Apr 11, 2017
@b they all have the issue of MUST GET IMAGINARY INTERNET POINTS PLZ NOW.
Show thread(moved) boots‮🌸🌿‭Apr 11, 2017
@pnathan Exactly.
Also, I've heard bad things about Hacker News and...well, nothing at all about Digg, but here's a good article about SO. https://hackernoon.com/the-decline-of-stack-overflow-7cb69faa575d
Show thread⚗️⚗️⚗️ pnathan ⚗️⚗️⚗️Apr 11, 2017

@b hacker news is irregular. some topics attract the toxic. some topics have super legit threads. It has gotten better over the past year.

I have a fairly high rep on SO (26K) - the system is just not good. It empowers time-spent over quality, and first movers over late movers. I rarely use it these days. SO also has weird weird moderation/management practices (or had. it's been a few years).

Show thread⚗️⚗️⚗️ pnathan ⚗️⚗️⚗️Apr 11, 2017

@b I actually had my website be #1 for most of a day on HN a week or two ago?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13979002

I was actually highly impressed by the discourse.

But any topic touching gender, race, etc, is like a *magnet* for toxicity: I don't even go there.

Show thread⚗️⚗️⚗️ pnathan ⚗️⚗️⚗️Apr 11, 2017
@b Thinking more: this is actually an exercise in applied polysci. there are Admins, who *own* the server. Moderators are chosen through a diversity of means, but generally there is no process to fire them: they are enfeuded to the admin. Sometimes there are lower levels of mod, but they too are enfeuded to admins. Sometimes within the domain, you can have submods enfeuded in practice to mods. Regardless, the populace life in fiefs and have no recourse without rioting.