SilmarApr 7, 2017
☤Hermes۞_۟۞凸λgistus☿
I think because of the 140 char limit, people are incapable of listening to each other now. We're traumatized by it.

You expect that the thing you're reading isn't saying anything, so you don't read it carefully, or you project the extra context yourself and assume the person is implying things you don't like out of a need for self preservation. It'll be alright.

You're safe now. You actually argue productively here. The art of finding common ground is back.
Apr 7, 2017 at 3:58pmWeb
Show threadMunin, Keeper of LoreApr 7, 2017

@hermeslispegistus Very true - have noticed this already; the slightly slower pace is very beneficial for mutual understanding and a fuller reading of what is intended.

That being said, the old art of the inverted pyramid is still a good idea to practice ;-)

Show thread☤Hermes۞_۟۞凸λgistus☿Apr 7, 2017
@munin I'm not sure I've heard of the pyramid thing?
Show threadMunin, Keeper of LoreApr 7, 2017
@hermeslispegistus Old journalism style recommendations. It boils down to 'get to the point up front quickly, and save details for further down, because many people won't read down through the whole article and you want them to understand what's going on as much as possible in the first graf"
Show threadMx TurumoreApr 7, 2017
@hermeslispegistus I love the fact that we are able to open up for broader and more constructive discussions, rather than shouting short snippets here and there.
Show threadSilmarApr 7, 2017
@hermeslispegistus three days here and I completely agree 'til now
Show thread🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️KODO🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️Apr 7, 2017
@hermeslispegistus I actually have a regex now that *only* shows posts that are part of a conversation so I can listen to what people are saying.
Show thread🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️KODO🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️Apr 7, 2017
@hermeslispegistus ^((?!@).)*$
Show threadKevin ✅Apr 7, 2017
@hermeslispegistus tl;dr
Show thread☤Hermes۞_۟۞凸λgistus☿Apr 7, 2017
@kevinredacted I actually have 1000 characters to work with, but I don't know how that works across instances, so I assume 500 and don't go over that.
Show threadKevin ✅Apr 8, 2017
@hermeslispegistus That was just a joke, but huh, that's interesting, I didn't know that, I assumed 500 characters was part of the protocol.
Show thread☤Hermes۞_۟۞凸λgistus☿Apr 8, 2017
@kevinredacted Some instances have no limit. https://quitter.no/attachment/1073601
Show threadKevin ✅Apr 8, 2017
@hermeslispegistus Madness. There oughta be a law!
Show thread☤Hermes۞_۟۞凸λgistus☿Apr 8, 2017
@kevinredacted How does this look on your end? Two paragraphs of lorem ipsum:

1 Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.

2 Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.
Show threadKevin ✅Apr 8, 2017
@hermeslispegistus The whole thing came through, all 976 characters. I guess mastodon just enforced 500 characters when creating posts, but accepts whatever other instances gives it, which is probably the right decision.
Show thread☤Hermes۞_۟۞凸λgistus☿Apr 8, 2017
@kevinredacted That's pretty interesting.
Show threadHedgeMageApr 8, 2017
@kevin_redacted @hermeslispegistus ...until I create a malicious server that coughs out extremely long posts...and keep making them longer.
Show threadskepsiApr 8, 2017

@HedgeMage @kevin_redacted @hermeslispegistus

or even a server for valid discussion server with no limits. That would be an interesting instance for sure. Maybe even some *gasp* respectful argument.

Show thread☤Hermes۞_۟۞凸λgistus☿Apr 8, 2017
@kevinredacted Limited number of characters is censorship! It's literally a limit of speech!
Show threadpompolicApr 8, 2017
@hermeslispegistus Also you can fit an entire navy seal copypasta there
Show threadAndreⓐApr 8, 2017
@hermeslispegistus @maradydd Interesting! I had noticed ways 500 vs. 140 affects quality of discourse here - it seems to hit a bit of a good balance, still short enough that I can skim and the decision whether I want to look closer at something scrolling past is nearly instant, but long enough to *think* a little in.
Show thread⛈️ Information ⛈️Apr 8, 2017

@hermeslispegistus But also, there are not flights of meta-bots run by a single operator tasked with poisoning all opposing discourse they find.

That's not a fake thing on twitter.

Show thread⊏︎ʜʀɪs⊤︎ɪ∧︎︎ɴApr 8, 2017

@hermeslispegistus
"I think because of the 140 char limit, people are incapable of listening to each other now."

Except for those of us who haven't used Twitter since like 2011 XD