peter hessler - inactiveApr 5, 2017

At BSDCan, I'll be giving a tutorial "BGP for Sysadmins/Developers". This will be my first class I've taught solo.

My future intentions for this is to teach networking and #BGP for people that know nothing about networking. I found it somewhat difficult to move from Sysadmin to Network Admin, and I want to help others cross over if they want.

Not to mention, having a solid understanding of networking will help you with computers in general.

Show threadColin MahnsApr 5, 2017
@phessler this is awesome! my formal network training (applied sciences major in school) has been super useful for myself working in incident response. the nitty gritty networking stuff isn't taught as much as it should to other IT fields
Show threadpeter hessler - inactive

@colinmahns I've also found, that when it *is* taught, they teach things that have been *deprecated* for 23 years. Things that are actively dangerous for people to learn.

My day job is managing the 4th largest network in Germany. I brought us up from 15th place when I started, 2 years ago. I feel I have the practical knowledge to be able to teach others :).

Apr 5, 2017 at 5:46pmWeb
Show threadColin MahnsApr 5, 2017
@phessler noticed that too! I've had to tell people various old concepts no longer apply in "the real world" a number of times. one nice thing at my community college was working directly on cisco/juniper equipment, at least I saw how these things were implemented first before shooting my mouth off 😅
Show threadKurt MosiejczukApr 6, 2017
@phessler @colinmahns But we should still teach Classful networking, right? :)
I finished my BS in "Applied Networking and Systems Administration". Classes were painful. I was much happier when I was just taking liberal arts at the end. Less forehead bruising.
Show threadColin MahnsApr 6, 2017

@kurtm @phessler hah, i loved the classful networking section in my classes. was a nice bullet point to glaze over during the lecture ;)

agree with the liberal arts! i originally started as one in school before moving over to my applied networking degree. the stuff i had to do in those classes made my head spin, but was somehow less painful than dealing with old legacy terms in school

Show threadKurt MosiejczukApr 6, 2017
@colinmahns @phessler I just loved not being made to do things that no one outside of that class does.
Or being made to use Solaris. One class made me use Solaris. :cry:
Show threadColin MahnsApr 6, 2017
@kurtm @phessler thankfully my unix classes had finally moved fully over to linux by the time i took them, narrowly avoided using solaris by a year!
Show threadKurt MosiejczukApr 6, 2017
@colinmahns @phessler
Oh, they used Linux mostly, but this "SysAdmin 3" class the sadistic professor made us run 3 servers and required one to be Windows and one to be Solaris.
Fortunately, I talked my team into using OpenBSD on the last one. 3 BSD converts after that.
We all watched as we DBAN'd the Solaris box at the end.
Show threadColin MahnsApr 6, 2017
@kurtm @phessler nice! you managed to come out of that situation with the best outcome :smiley: