Biomemetic1d ago
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An independent test confirms Krita delivers 90% of Photoshop's power for zero cost. As Adobe pushes its $20.99 monthly subscriptions, open-source alternatives are absorbing budget-conscious digital artists. #Tech #OpenSource #Krita #DigitalArt #Software
https://blazetrends.com/open-source-krita-hits-90-of-photoshops-capability-as-creators-abandon-adobe-subscriptions/?fsp_sid=43382
Open-source Krita hits 90% of Photoshop’s capability as creators abandon Adobe subscriptions

An independent software test confirmed the open-source drawing app Krita now matches 90% of Adobe Photoshop's power for free, offering a lifeline to artists priced out of the $600-a-year Creative Cloud.

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Show threadIsu 🐲2d ago
@theblazetrends So, if everybody who is saving a ton of money on Adobe software now would just donate one month worth of subscriptions each year to Krita ...
Show threadMartin Owens 2d ago

@Isurandil @theblazetrends

"Donate" -> "Pay for Krita"

It's not enough to put a few coppers in the tin as if charity is how we get industrial scale production of software. Krita is a serious business, with people to pay for doing work and users who conversely deserve to be listened to.

We really need to get this idea of donating out of our heads.

Pay for your Free Software!

#PayForFreeSoftware

Show thread.ｂｅｅｊａｙ1d ago
@doctormo @Isurandil @theblazetrends If it’s free a “donation” is the right term for me. Payment is an obligation while a donation isn’t.
Show threadIsu 🐲1d ago

@beejay @doctormo @theblazetrends Well, maybe a good solution would be some kind of reminder within Krita popping up every ~three months?

Something like "You've been quite the Krita power user: 930 h over the past year, that's more than 2.5 h per day on average! We are honoured to have made such a useful software for you and we would like to continue delivering you the tools you need. Based on your usage, we would appreciate a donation of about 5 €/month or 60 €/a."

Show threadIsu 🐲1d ago
@beejay @doctormo @theblazetrends And maybe asking power users to tell the devs which features they are missing the most etc.
Show thread.ｂｅｅｊａｙ1d ago
@Isurandil @doctormo @theblazetrends @immichapp does that for example. While it’s completely free to use, you can buy it as well. Cost 100 bucks (or 25$ per user) and gives you no additional features. Just the small reminder in the web interface disappears.
Show threadMartin Owens 1d ago

@beejay @Isurandil @theblazetrends

And I'm saying you are obligated. Just because there's a price point for people who literally can not pay does not absolve everyone else of their responsibilities.

Show threadLR15h ago

@doctormo @Isurandil @theblazetrends

the problem with payment is that the seller then is liable for the product, which is presently not the case. liability then incurs additional cost on the manufacturer, which would have to be reflected in the price again.

then, volunteers who have previously filed tickets and submitted patches feel they're being taken advantage of and will want to get paid too. the price goes up further.

all this spirals, until we have become fucking adobe.

money = cancer

Show threadMartin Owens 13h ago

@lritter

Disagree.

Money is a problem. But it is the externality we must balance out.

Volunteers come in two flavours; those that help others and those that help themselves. Neither can be compelled to work or take responsibility.

The net result is irresponsible projects, careless design and resource poor industrial capacity. If we are not prepared to pay everyone who works on a project fairly. What are we doing?

Labour abuse.

A union wouldn't stand for that.

@Isurandil @theblazetrends

Show threaddisorderlyf2d ago
@theblazetrends The only thing Krita doesn't do for me is there's certain filters I occasionally use as sort of a quick and dirty pass to make textures for 3D assets. But I can already use other FOSS programmes for that. There's very little benefit I can think of to using Photoshop unless you make heaving use of diffusion models or have a very specialised workflow.
Show threadAlessandro Corazza 🇨🇦2d ago

@theblazetrends

Illustrator and InDesign users crying in the corner :(

(don't @ me about Inkscape and Scribus)

Show threadMartin Owens 2d ago

@alessandro

If there was one thing you could fix or add to Inkscape what would it be?

Show threadAlessandro Corazza 🇨🇦1d ago

@doctormo

I don't think Inkscape will ever be suitable so long as it uses the SVG file format. SVG for example doesn't support something as elementary as paragraph spacing.

Show threadMartin Owens 1d ago

@alessandro

Thank you.

Inkscape does not need svg to support paragraph spacing to add paragraph spacing. In this case text features need investment, and I would agree.

Show thread🧊 freezr 🥶2d ago

@theblazetrends

I'd like to see this independent study.

Anyway if you are a pro, paying $600 yearly to have fully access to plethora of industry standard software is nothing.

And Adobe offers valuable promotions for students, so the point is not exactly the price, although what we peirceive being affordable in western countries might not being perceived the same way in other world's regions.

What is important is to escape vendor lock-in but we are already late for this, Adobe has a monopoly "de facto" and open source projects lack customer services and a structure to dialogue with firms interconnected in the same field.

So I plaude to all the professionals that were able to switch to a full open source and free software ecosystem, it is required a lot of patience, adaptatility, resilience, motivation and many tests and trials.

Show threadMatt Owens2d ago

@freezr @theblazetrends

Industry standard is the rub with a lot of open source alternatives. They can be great for a lot of use cases, but sometimes the edge cases that don’t match the commercial software really matter.

@mwl refers to it in publishing as bug for bug compatibility with Microsoft Word

Show threadMartin Owens 2d ago

@freezr @theblazetrends

The article seemed really light weight to me. I'd expect some detail, I cant tell at all how cherry picked, or scaled the study is. Did they ask one person or a hundred? What did they ask. Etc.

@brokenintuition

Show threadraghukamath2d ago
@doctormo @freezr @theblazetrends @brokenintuition the article I found which is linked in the post is by filmora an AI digital video editor. It seemed like countless comparison articles written to gain seo ranking.

Being a krita user myself I would like to see the real case study written by humans
Show threadR.L. Dane    🍵 2d ago

@theblazetrends

Huh, I'd always heard that Krita was meant to be more of a painting program.

Show threadTina1d ago
@rl_dane @theblazetrends Krita started out as a Photoshop like program called KImageShop (later Krayon). Only 2009 it was decided (I think by asking community what they want) to not try to be yet another Photoshop clone, but to make the best drawing program possible. But the roots of Krita are Photoshoplike.
Show threadColin1d ago
@lazy @rl_dane @theblazetrends is PS NOT a “painting” program? Tons of folks draw in PS.
I don’t get this pointless categorizing. Both software allow for creation as well as manipulation and editing.
Show threadTina1d ago
@colinstu @rl_dane @theblazetrends PS is a general image manipulation software. This includes drawing capabilities. And this categorization is important for projects such as Krita, because it defines where devs set priorities. While Krita is generally more powerful for drawing than PS Adobe could at anytime throw a few millions into PS to improve it. Krita devs cannot. If Krita was to remain a general image manipulation software it would not be able to offer the power in drawing it now has. Community did not need Krita to become a second GIMP and rather decided to make it a tool focussed on drawing.
Show threadElias Mårtenson2d ago
@theblazetrends I suspect it delivers 100% of needed functionality for a very large percentage of photoshop users.
Show threadFanfalla 2d ago
@theblazetrends That's super cool!
Show threadMaddad ☑️2d ago

@theblazetrends

Krita is the best 🤩

Show threadOV Dragonman2d ago
@theblazetrends I would really like to ditch PhotoShop and the rest of Creative Cloud, but . . . after using most those programs for 25 years or so, I would have to unlearn all the shortcuts and tricks I know, then embark on a new learning curve. And that's a new learning curve for each of the 9 Adobe products currently on my task bar. Yeah, I'm solidly hooked, OK?
Show threadC.2d ago

@ov_dragonman @theblazetrends Not "unlearn". Learn more tricks. 🙌 More tools in the toolbox.

Consistently learning new tools and techniques keeps your work relevant and money flowing in against the clankers 🤖🚫. (Especially with Adobe CC subs at like $80+ a month. Nausea-inducing.)

Show threadOV Dragonman1d ago

@SlangC5326 @theblazetrends I spent 3 WEEKS with one program trying to duplicate a single step in a three program process to produce something that only took 1 HOUR with the tools I already knew. And then I found it did not play nicely with the other parts I needed to use. Nope, that math does not add up for me.

I have no problem with other tools, as long as you can produce a comparable whatever in the same time and it fits your workflow. If your tools work for you, stick with them.

Show threadFals Fiction13h ago

@ov_dragonman @theblazetrends

I have no one idea what working in Photoshop is like these days, because I bounced hard off it way back in my teens. But one part of the conversation about switching that I think should be mentioned every time is that Krita has an abundance of customization options.

You can [set shortcuts](https://docs.krita.org/en/reference_manual/preferences/shortcut_settings.html), [arrange the layout](https://docs.krita.org/en/reference_manual/preferences/shortcut_settings.html), modify brushes and store textures, and add plugins to expand options.

1/2

Shortcut Settings

Configuring shortcuts in Krita.

Show threadFals Fiction13h ago

@ov_dragonman @theblazetrends

I've seen regular Adobe users need a few days to a couple weeks to arrange everything in Krita to fit workflows and preferences. That amount of time is nothing compared to the work you've already put in to creating those workflows.

The advantage is moving to freedom from a company that's been stealing from creators, lying about prices, ignoring contractual obligations, and whatever it's been doing with deals involving war criminals through those decades.

2/2

Show threadraghukamath2d ago
@theblazetrends  any link to the study. I did see a link in the article by filmora ai digital video editor, the article seemed like one of those articles made to rank higher in seo. It tries to market filmora rather than being a case study.

I am a krita user and I would like to see the human written article out of curiosity.
Show threadeclexic2d ago

@theblazetrends I don't understand what 90% means here.

Like cool, but what does it mean to have 90% of the features of another app that is designed differently?

How many of krita's features does photoshop cover? I would expect that isn't 100% either...

Either way, Krita is cool, recommended it myself to several people over the years.

Show threadMark2d ago
@theblazetrends Couldn’t read the article. Ads took over my screen. 😐
Show threadRegendans1d ago
@MarkBrigham @theblazetrends Why not use uBlock Origin ? imho the best ad blocker, and made by one person who does not seek donations, and who suggest to donate to the people who provide the block lists. Works also with Safari on iOS and MacOS. https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/UBlock_Origin
uBlock Origin - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Show threadKata2d ago
@theblazetrends
I think comparing Photoshop to Krita is a bit of an apples-to-oranges comparison. Krita is an excellent digital painting and illustration tool, while Photoshop is primarily built for image editing. If you're looking for an open-source Photoshop alternative for photo editing, GIMP is the more appropriate comparison.
Show thread.ｂｅｅｊａｙ1d ago
@katad @theblazetrends Thanks! This just came to my mind. And I thought I’d just not understand the software.
Show threadChouka1d ago
@theblazetrends i'd be happy to know how Affinity's approach scores in comparison.
Show threadRyoma1231d ago
@theblazetrends Ok, ma allora come mai non siamo tutti passati Krita?
Show threadJustSaying1d ago
@theblazetrends There's also GIMP
Show threaddisconnectionist1d ago
@theblazetrends why is nobody comparing it to GIMP? It’s my go-to “programmer art” tool. Is it out of fashion or something?
Show threadColin1d ago

@theblazetrends @barnibu wtf is this SEO AI slop looking website? Where is the source? Where is this 90% coming from or even mean?

I love Krita and excitement for it but this site looks like shit lol.

Show threadAllan Svelmøe Hansen21h ago
@theblazetrends I don't use photoshop myself but it is good to know alternatives like this.