Ariadne Conill 🐰
honestly the thing that makes me walk from alpine might not even be the LLM debate, the governance issues, etc
it might be the fact that i can no longer properly maintain my packages in alpine because the gitlab is being DoSed by AI scrapers
seriously, i have been trying to git pull *for 30+ minutes now*
the other day i caught one of these AI companies downloading the same pkgconf tarball over and over and over and over again
thank goodness that my colocation provider gives me a rather absurdly generous bandwidth allowance...
9pfs@9pfs i don't know, feel free to ask the fine chaps at SpaceX
Christopher Snowhill@9pfs @ariadne One of the things I'd heard about some of these chatbot harnesses is that when directed to touch a project you don't have locally, they'll point themselves at the HTTP endpoint for a Git repository, and fetch individual files, one at a time, with an absurd amount of headers with each request.
Ben AvelingThis is why dog gave us zipbombs. @ariadne
Colin@ariadne ah so that's why it was so incredibly slow. I was going to ask what's up / if there's a problem on the server —but oh, it's overloaded :<
@colinstu our infrastructure is being decimated by LLM scrapers, and yet we can't even agree to say "fuck AI"
taco, bird/cat 
@chirpbirb @ariadne caching? storage? why do that when we can just burn a zillion more tokens and charge for it and redo a bunch of work all the time?
diffie@colinstu @chirpbirb @ariadne My wild guess is it's designed and coded by a generation of people who don't know what a caching HTTP proxy server is.
(kinda joking)
(kinda joking)
@diffie @colinstu @chirpbirb i don't think they are motivated to be resource efficient, considering they can bill for token use
Haelwenn /элвэн/ 
@diffie @colinstu @chirpbirb @ariadne Well does reminds me that all the CI setups I've seen so far just rely on CDNs existing rather than caching proxies / local mirrors.
Luci “Milky Princess” Tea@chirpbirb @ariadne @colinstu the current wave isn’t by traditional style of scrapers/indexers- from the perspective of the server admin it looks like a DDoS because the scrape is initiated by individual agent sessions on individual machines running user requests; and in an “agentic” workflow this is indistinguishable from a botnet
VoidZeroOne 
Ayush Agarwal (आयुष अग्रवाल)
nicole mikołajczyk
Glyph
Adam ♿@ariadne I am so sorry.
@ariadne GNOME gave up and uses Fastly now.