RE: https://fosstodon.org/@robhawkes/116806495596151584

Meanwhile the #octopus Agile price in the N of Scotland is currently 84.7665 p/kWh and is set to go over 90 in an hour or so.

Not doing the washing up until after 22:00 or having my evening shower till after 23:00 today.

@edavies there was me complaining about 35p/kWh earlier 

@mactunag Yep. But we up this end of the island can have a legitimate moan that we're surrounded by wind farms but pay the highest electricity prices in the UK, even when there's a bit of a breeze.

A cynical person might suspect that the UK government refuses to do regional pricing because it would increase electricity prices for people in England who are likely to vote Labour or Tory but decrease them here where people vote LibDem or SNP.

Also, that lower electricity prices up this way might attract some energy-intensive business here and away from England. Perhaps. And perhaps similarly for Wales.

I'm sure any such suspicions would be totally unfair, of course.

@edavies @mactunag

I'd hope a cynical person would note that the previous government wouldn't do it either.

I pay more attention to the electricity price being shoved up by the gas price, which if changed would surely do you some good as well, but I do wonder if the network costs per consumer are greater in Scotland as well as in the hilly bits of Devon.

How accurately are the bills divided into semi-fixed costs - a wire to your house - and cost of the next kJoule?

@Photo55 Sure, it's the London/England-centric parties who have a reasonable chance of forming a government (at least for now) - Labour and Tory aren't much different on this sort of thing.

And, yes, the whole “market” is dysfunctional in so many ways to not be a real market or a sensible arrangement at all.

Indeed, network costs are more in the extremities of the island and that is reflected in the electricity prices to at least some extent so that's a double whammy - charged for the higher distribution costs but still charged the fixed price for each kJ when that ought to be lower a lot of the time.

@mactunag

@edavies @mactunag
Concur.
On the one hand the market elements are Thatcherite crap, and national - international in fact - networks do have to be planned, managed and made to work - OTOH the CEGB might not have been so good at getting lots of solar and wind generation into place (but did well with the AGRs and Dinorwic)

Gripping hand: I have panels on my roof and a tiny share of a solar park (and thereby hang tales) and the Grid isn't chaotic.

#electricity

@edavies @mactunag That’s exactly why they don’t like regional pricing.
Nor do they much like community energy agreements that power is cheap where it’s generated, independent of jacking up the price just because it can be sold to London.