Got a new work laptop but... it's an Apple. 😬
Is the setup as easy as Windows or is it going to be a massive iDrama?

@KiwiEV Heh. This reads like a root from alternative universe.

If one doesn’t fight against Apple ways for no good reason, then Apple is, in my opinion, the easiest way to computer.

And having brief moments of the need to do anything trivial on windows over the decades I shiver every time I have to interact with this hellish nonsense.

@MichalBryxi @KiwiEV
Let me tell you about the ways and means #Apple uses to make your computing hardware redundent by design… (not to say releases after sloppy coding, testing, and QA)

Microsoft Vs Apple is a non event, they are both gatekeeping communities and profit machines… whatever UI differences are there, it’s all about taking the piss… and your money.

Of course, that is only my opinion. You’re welcome.

@RaymondPierreL3 @KiwiEV How does Apple make HW redundant by design? I have 6 y.o. MBP that still runs the newest OS and operating smoother way beyond what Redmond could do.
Laptops prebubdled with Windows are often times barely useable before one uninstalls all the adware. If one can at all.
They both do profit, but the MS model is IMO way more hostile to the user as one does not have an option for good experience.

[edited for spelling mistakes - abhorrent!]
@MichalBryxi
I’ve had to upgrade my iPad three times because it could not support new updates. Fact — acknowledged by Apple.

One devil being worse than another still leave us with two devils. It makes no sense sticking with either when alternatives are available. Simple logic.

In the end, it’s really about what use the technology can provide to help you do what you want to do. If that means you’ll have to sell your soul to the devil, it’s your choice. It all comes down to the choices you make and the things you take on as a result of those choices; but you shouldn’t champion those choice blindly IMO.

@RaymondPierreL3 Agree, but I'm far from "there are alternatives". Alternatives for whom? #Linux?

Person that is happy to compile a kernel and webcam drivers to make the most basic things work somehow until they break again with next release? Been there, ran #Gentoo on all my machines and #Ubuntu on relatives for ~decade.

Would not choose to do it again. Time is the ultimate finite resource of mine and I'd rather have "works ok-ish now" than "could work eventually if I spend more time on it".

@MichalBryxi @RaymondPierreL3 have you tried this recently? i’m even running nixos and still the last time i’ve had to troubleshoot anything was literal years ago. I’ve had more issues with Windows in my house for sure.
@allieoxenfree @RaymondPierreL3 Not personally, no. I have a for the longest one die hard fan of Linux switching to MacOS last year because even with the most compatible hardware(tm) he could not have an easy time.
My time is worth more than that.