Alexander WinklerAny ideas as to what would be good practices for annotating images on #wikicommons using structured data?
cf. annotations such as these, but with #wikidata items and not wikipedia links: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Prequile_lyon_1863.jpg
maybe @abbe98 's Image annotator app? https://image-annotator.toolforge.org/
It doesn't appear to be working now, however.
Christian Erlinger@librerli yes, thanks, this tools does what I was looking for. UX is not entirely intuitive yet (especially in contexts of editathons with a non-specialist public)
@awinkler for the editathon purpose look at ISA tool: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:ISA_Tool
@librerli that's 'just' structured data, right? No regions, if I understand correctly.
For structured data this looks very interesting.
@awinkler exactly. ISA tool is "just" for adding the depicts statement (P180) to a file.
but if added a depicts statement to a file, it is just one step behind to add the region with the Structured Region tool afterwards.
but if added a depicts statement to a file, it is just one step behind to add the region with the Structured Region tool afterwards.
Rainer Simon@aboutgeo @librerli maybe @LucasWerkmeister and @abbe98 can help, I don't know enough about these things. What is needed (imho): 1) Load image from Commons, 2) select region (rectangular or polygon), 3) provide suggestions for Wikidata items in input box, 4) write selected WD-Item either as P180 or P9664 + region as P2677 (rectang) or P8276 (polygon) Qualifier to Wikicommons.
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@aboutgeo @librerli @LucasWerkmeister @abbe98 My usecase: Annotation of historic city map (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Selter_Berlin_1809.jpg). A tool with sleek ux would be great for editathons, object documentation in GLAMs and, why not, research. Storing info directly in Wikicommons would be very cool and FAIR (2/2)
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Lucas Werkmeister@awinkler @aboutgeo @librerli @abbe98 I just had a quick look at P8276 (polygon; cc @stk) and… it doesn’t seem to be used at all? no usage on Wikidata (https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20%2a%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%3Fstatement%20pq%3AP8276%20%3Fpolygon.%0A%7D%0ALIMIT%20100); only two on Commons (https://commons-query.wikimedia.org/#SELECT%20%2a%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%3Fstatement%20pq%3AP8276%20%3Fpolygon.%0A%7D%0ALIMIT%20100 – https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Loutherbourg-La_Victoire_de_Lord_Howe-D%C3%A9tail_1.jpg and https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Loutherbourg-La_Victoire_de_Lord_Howe-D%C3%A9tail_2.jpg), both of which actually seem to be using the rectangle (P2677) syntax as far as I can tell (so someone just used the wrong property, I think?)
@LucasWerkmeister I think the documentation for this and the other(proposed?) geroreferencing related properties lives somewhere on Commons. Can't remember what happened to the situation but quite a lot of work went into this over quite a few hackathons.
@aboutgeo @librerli @stk are you referring to this ticket, @abbe98? https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227036 (linked here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Bertspaan/maps)
I agree with @LucasWerkmeister. The syntax for P8276 is insufficiently defined. The JSON suggested in the proposal seems a bit odd. Following https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap one would rather expect a list of vertices. Polygons would be very useful, so I hope there will be a solution at some point.
@awinkler No, this set of properties and initial JSON format was developed at the Wikimedia Hackathon in Stockholm but since it has gotten lots of work and greater community support.
Sorry I can't look all of this up right now but since Stockholm User:Multichill and User:Jheald has championed the effort I think.
Thanks, @abbe98 ! I opened a discussion on this on the property talk page (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P8276#Specification_of_Syntax)
@aboutgeo @librerli @stk @LucasWerkmeister Thanks