I'm getting burnt out on all my moderation actions being against fucking AI. Like, I never thought I'd say it, but I miss suspending Nazis and bigotsβ€”at least they were real people who would give up after a whileβ€”these LLMs just go on and on, and they don't give a shit if they're suspended or rejected.

#FuckLLMs (but also #FuckNazis and #FuckBigots)

It's getting bad. Like 80+% of our instance applications are AI-generated now, and it's a huge waste of time to action them.

There seem to be several different models, and they all use throwaway email providers and VPNs.

We have one model that just "wants community" in a couple sentences, one that is looking for "tech-minded, open source friends", one that just spews word-salad, one that copies and pastes other people's bios, and at least a couple that try various plausible messages.

The better they get, the more resources it takes us to identify and reject them.

They're like fucking fruit flies.

@alice yup, we're getting these too
@ricci @alice I absolutely still don't get the point of these. You can't farm engagement and ad clicks on the Fediverse? πŸ€”

@floe @ricci @alice

I don't think it's about engagement. I think they are simply trying to drown everyone out. Either the instance they target gets sick of it and shuts down or they flood it with bots to say whatever they want. Either way they win unless we can find an efficient way to filter them out.

@Butterbee @floe @alice when they do get in, they don't seem to be posting anything though. I suppose they might be saving up accounts for use later?
@ricci @floe @alice my wild speculation could also be wrong! there's weird bot behaviour on the steam workshop too. I've been making mods for Paralives and bot accounts are stealing people's mods and reposting them. They don't change the description or thumbnail. There's no money, clout, or ad revenue to be found there. I don't understand it unless the goal is to just make the internet an awful place.

@Butterbee πŸ«‚

It's the same as the accounts that steal content from adult creators and repost it as their own (or as "appreciators of the female body").

They're just there to feel special on the back of someone else's work.

@ricci @floe

That’s my guess

@ricci @Butterbee @floe @alice

@jdp23 @ricci @floe @alice like if a single bot starts acting up they know it will get banned but if they wait until they have 1000 bots on the instance before starting them it's a tougher problem to deal with?

Or, just getting the disinfo network in place ahead of time so it can be activated when the time is right

@Butterbee @ricci @floe @alice

@ricci it depends. Some are for catfishing, some for disinformation, some for spam waves, some for data exfiltration, etc.

And a lot of them lie dormant for a while until they reach a certain number of accounts, or until people have forgotten about them, before they act.

@Butterbee @floe

@alice @ricci @floe That makes a depressing amount of sense.