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TutaEuro-Office just launched its first stable version 🇪🇺🔥
We're excited to be part of this movement to bring digital sovereignty to Europe and beyond with @nextcloud @xwiki @openproject @soverin #Eurostack 🎉
angelo
XWiki SAS@angelo you can find it here: https://github.com/Euro-Office
thecymon
dunklecat@thecymon @xwiki @angelo let's say that the entire premise is not really good... https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2026/06/08/an-open-letter/
An open letter to office suite users, just before the Euro-Office announcement - TDF Community Blog
Dear office suite users, In recent days you will have read various articles announcing the arrival of Euro-Office, which is being “marketed” as the first open-source office suite developed in Europe. We feel compelled — reluctantly, since open source should rest on transparency, not deception — to correct this claim. The first open-source office suite developed in Europe was OpenOffice.org in 2001, based on StarOffice’s source code, followed by LibreOffice from 2010. These are two genuine open-source office suites, built from source code that originated in Europe. They are not a freeware clone of MS Office whose code provenance is undisclosed, nor a product that has rebranded itself out of pure opportunism to ride today’s wave of Digital Sovereignty. It is worth remembering that many of those who champion Digital Sovereignty today were silent back in 2006, when the open ISO/IEC ODF standard — the pillar of Digital Sovereignty — was announced: not only did they not listen to us during all these years, but in some cases they greeted us with a condescending smile. If we can speak of Digital Sovereignty in Europe today, it is thanks to The Document Foundation and LibreOffice community members at large, who kept
Natanox 🇺🇦🇵🇸
☭ Father HardstoneRE: https://mastodon.social/@Tutanota/116720475387018053
Digital Sovereignty 
while hosting it on Github ! 
Make it make sense !
ZiClaud@Natanox @xwiki @angelo they couldn't host it on Codeberg for legal reasons, they'll probably switch in the future tho
There's an issue in there which talks about it: https://github.com/Euro-Office/DocumentServer/issues/14
Look at:
https://github.com/Euro-Office/DocumentServer/issues/14#issuecomment-4161034493
And
https://github.com/Euro-Office/DocumentServer/issues/14#issuecomment-4162066119
Which states
Regarding the specific matter of any potential takedown request against this project if it were to move to Codeberg: It is still possible that the law would require us to take down the project if a takedown notice were to [...]
@ZiClaud @xwiki @angelo Not sure in what way around you start your projects, but in this case my first instinct would be to create the platform to work on first. I.e. host a Forgejo instance (if there wasn't a team member like Codeberg or another EU git provider) since it's about independence. 🙃
Just a really weird way to do things. Now they created tech debt for themselves, right in the middle of their workflow.
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Maya@xwiki @angelo Hi! What do you think about this? https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2026/06/08/an-open-letter/
An open letter to office suite users, just before the Euro-Office announcement - TDF Community Blog
Dear office suite users, In recent days you will have read various articles announcing the arrival of Euro-Office, which is being “marketed” as the first open-source office suite developed in Europe. We feel compelled — reluctantly, since open source should rest on transparency, not deception — to correct this claim. The first open-source office suite developed in Europe was OpenOffice.org in 2001, based on StarOffice’s source code, followed by LibreOffice from 2010. These are two genuine open-source office suites, built from source code that originated in Europe. They are not a freeware clone of MS Office whose code provenance is undisclosed, nor a product that has rebranded itself out of pure opportunism to ride today’s wave of Digital Sovereignty. It is worth remembering that many of those who champion Digital Sovereignty today were silent back in 2006, when the open ISO/IEC ODF standard — the pillar of Digital Sovereignty — was announced: not only did they not listen to us during all these years, but in some cases they greeted us with a condescending smile. If we can speak of Digital Sovereignty in Europe today, it is thanks to The Document Foundation and LibreOffice community members at large, who kept
@dunklecat There are clearly significant limitations inherent in this project, and I understand where the LibreOffice stance comes from. My hope is that open formats will eventually become the standard, but we might also need to adapt quickly, given the pace of "diplomatic tensions" occurring recently. So, I am glad that at least something is moving forward!
Unfortunately, we have to cope with having been "brainwashed" for years into believing that Microsoft products are the only viable option.
Unfortunately, we have to cope with having been "brainwashed" for years into believing that Microsoft products are the only viable option.
la_rosa 
@angelo @Tutanota @nextcloud @openproject @soverin @soverin
The below article says self-hosting *should* be feasible starting today, so hopefully blog posts clarifying self hosting setups will pop-up soon.
For managed hosting the article says IONOS managed Nextcloud will be the first to offer Euro Office document editing, with other partners rolling out over 2026.
Euro-Office, Europe's open-source alternative to Microsoft Office and Google Docs, launches June 9
European tech firms will ship the first stable release of Euro-Office next month, giving governments and businesses worldwide a ready-to-run, sovereign alternative to Microsoft Office and Google Docs.
@la_rosa @Tutanota @nextcloud @openproject @soverin @soverin Thanks so much for your reply. I will keep an eye on it then! I ’m specifically after a Docker Compose configuration
@la_rosa @Tutanota @nextcloud @openproject @soverin @soverin so, yeah, I have deployed it, and it's basically Onlyoffice under the hood. The only mention of Euro-Office is during the Docker pull, but inside Nextcloud it's simply Onlyoffice
@angelo @Tutanota @nextcloud @openproject @soverin @soverin
Oh, cool!
This is a start. I'm glad Nextcloud had the foundation built and ready for this moment.
I'm curious to see Tuta integration plans.
Would love open solutions to become the status quo.
juno@Tutanota @nextcloud @xwiki @openproject @soverin @soverin so happy for you guyss!! Thanks for everything, LONG LIVE PRIVACY
O Iago 
@Tutanota @nextcloud @xwiki @openproject @soverin @soverin Yes, but https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2026/06/08/an-open-letter/.
If some day we see Tuta Docs, I expect it will run with open software having as default an open format (ODF) instead of a closed one.
If some day we see Tuta Docs, I expect it will run with open software having as default an open format (ODF) instead of a closed one.
An open letter to office suite users, just before the Euro-Office announcement - TDF Community Blog
Dear office suite users, In recent days you will have read various articles announcing the arrival of Euro-Office, which is being “marketed” as the first open-source office suite developed in Europe. We feel compelled — reluctantly, since open source should rest on transparency, not deception — to correct this claim. The first open-source office suite developed in Europe was OpenOffice.org in 2001, based on StarOffice’s source code, followed by LibreOffice from 2010. These are two genuine open-source office suites, built from source code that originated in Europe. They are not a freeware clone of MS Office whose code provenance is undisclosed, nor a product that has rebranded itself out of pure opportunism to ride today’s wave of Digital Sovereignty. It is worth remembering that many of those who champion Digital Sovereignty today were silent back in 2006, when the open ISO/IEC ODF standard — the pillar of Digital Sovereignty — was announced: not only did they not listen to us during all these years, but in some cases they greeted us with a condescending smile. If we can speak of Digital Sovereignty in Europe today, it is thanks to The Document Foundation and LibreOffice community members at large, who kept
geolaw@IGVazquez @Tutanota @nextcloud @xwiki @openproject @soverin @soverin This. Libre Office is right there
Librico (Any/All) ☎️ 3792@geolaw @IGVazquez @Tutanota @nextcloud @xwiki @openproject @soverin @soverin I am very thankful for the work Libreoffice contributors have done. At the same time:
Any non-techy friends that try LibreOffice hate it. I use it, I notice and work around the jank, and I remain thankful for the existance of this suite.
But unless LibreOffice receives fundamental modernizations, I doubt the mainstream would adopt it
OnlyOffice is a modern base to build upon, though I prefer .odf as default too
@librico @IGVazquez @Tutanota @nextcloud @xwiki @openproject @soverin @soverin The European Union can just pay developers to fix the jank
karlggest@librico
Try Colabora Office
@geolaw @IGVazquez @Tutanota @nextcloud @xwiki @openproject @soverin @soverin
Try Colabora Office
@geolaw @IGVazquez @Tutanota @nextcloud @xwiki @openproject @soverin @soverin
Kim@karlggestd @librico @geolaw @IGVazquez @Tutanota @nextcloud @[email protected] @openproject @soverin @soverin
TDF is also restarting development of LibreOffice Online. Having options is great.
Conny Nasch
Just Ice
Linux and BSD are best 🐧😈IONOS has a whole U.S. division now, so it is not exclusively a European company and is subject to U.S. jurisdiction.
Just a heads up for anyone who reads this and presumes everyone on the list is 100% European Digital Sovereignty.
panu
Toni@Tutanota
Euro-Office with limited ODF-Support but full Microslop-Support... I rather stay on collabora office.
@nextcloud @xwiki @openproject @soverin
Euro-Office with limited ODF-Support but full Microslop-Support... I rather stay on collabora office.
@nextcloud @xwiki @openproject @soverin
mrjive@Tutanota @nextcloud @xwiki @openproject @soverin
f*ck ooxml
It‘s a shame that we can’t use LibreOffice that is already open source.
@Tutanota @nextcloud @xwiki @openproject @soverin
@Tutanota @nextcloud @xwiki @openproject @soverin
@Mahura
But you can use Collabora Office, what's the problem?
@Tutanota @nextcloud @xwiki @openproject @soverin
But you can use Collabora Office, what's the problem?
@Tutanota @nextcloud @xwiki @openproject @soverin
I’m not an expert but from what I understand Collabora Office uses LibreOffice engine and is not making LibreOffice obsolete. Euro Office is a fork of LibreOffice that is meant to replace LibreOffice entirely.
@karlggestd @Tutanota @nextcloud @xwiki @openproject @soverin
@karlggestd @Tutanota @nextcloud @xwiki @openproject @soverin
@Tutanota @nextcloud @xwiki @openproject @soverin
Euro Office,
Commercial threat to LibreOffice and using Proprietry Microsoft Document formats.
NO THANKS
@Kerplunk @Tutanota @nextcloud @xwiki @openproject @soverin …LibreOffice also uses docx. You don't have to though. Not sure what your issue is.
@Natanox @Tutanota @nextcloud @xwiki @openproject @soverin
@Kerplunk @Tutanota @nextcloud @xwiki @openproject @soverin …LibreOffice also uses docx. You don't have to though. Not sure what your issue is.
Libreoffice standard is ODF.
Not a deliberately flawed microsoft format, it is also a non commercial project which should be supported more.
EU should be using Tax Payers Money wisely, not funneling it in to fashionable expensive, new online office suites, in this case actually a fork
@Kerplunk @Tutanota @nextcloud @xwiki @openproject @soverin I looked on their wiki page, Euro-Office doesn't specify which file format is their default. I assume it will be whatever is currently best for compatibility with all participants of something, including those who haven't switched yet (which is absolute paramount to realise a software change at this scale). It also does support ODF, so I still don't get what your issue is.
@Natanox @Tutanota @nextcloud @xwiki @openproject @soverin
In Euro Office, Full ODF Output is not implemented
On top
OOXML is a specification Microsoft controls and that has historically contained references to undocumented legacy behaviors from earlier Microsoft Office versions. Any office suite that treats OOXML as its primary format remains dependent on Microsoft's decisions about how that format evolves. ODF, by contrast, is an ISO standard
= It is not, as claimed fully open source
@Kerplunk @Tutanota @nextcloud @xwiki @openproject @soverin Huh? Isn't Euro-Office stating full ODF support on its github page? "ODF file formats ODS, ODT and ODP" are specifically mentioned. 🧐 It definitely should have it given it's an ONLYOFFICE fork.
@Tutanota @nextcloud @xwiki @openproject @soverin
Unethitical marketing statements, Microsoft proprietary data format as default, download from a Microsoft owned platform ...
While I generally appreciate the Euro Office initiative, sadly there are several major 'opportunities' for improvement.
For the time being I will steer clear of #eurooffice
guteIT@Tutanota @nextcloud @xwiki @openproject @soverin
You really do use microsoft's github?
Really?
Is this foolsday?
oatmeal@Tutanota @nextcloud @xwiki @openproject @soverin "Euro Office" fork is using ooxml. This is a proprietary Microsoft format. What does this have to do with free software or open standards? Can you please stop faking it and get serious?
@Tutanota @nextcloud @xwiki @openproject @soverin Hi all! What do you think about this? https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2026/06/08/an-open-letter/
An open letter to office suite users, just before the Euro-Office announcement - TDF Community Blog
Dear office suite users, In recent days you will have read various articles announcing the arrival of Euro-Office, which is being “marketed” as the first open-source office suite developed in Europe. We feel compelled — reluctantly, since open source should rest on transparency, not deception — to correct this claim. The first open-source office suite developed in Europe was OpenOffice.org in 2001, based on StarOffice’s source code, followed by LibreOffice from 2010. These are two genuine open-source office suites, built from source code that originated in Europe. They are not a freeware clone of MS Office whose code provenance is undisclosed, nor a product that has rebranded itself out of pure opportunism to ride today’s wave of Digital Sovereignty. It is worth remembering that many of those who champion Digital Sovereignty today were silent back in 2006, when the open ISO/IEC ODF standard — the pillar of Digital Sovereignty — was announced: not only did they not listen to us during all these years, but in some cases they greeted us with a condescending smile. If we can speak of Digital Sovereignty in Europe today, it is thanks to The Document Foundation and LibreOffice community members at large, who kept
Islam Hamouda@Tutanota @nextcloud @xwiki @openproject @soverin
Can we expect it to be integrated into Tuta Drive at launch?
ed 🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🦒🇪🇺@Tutanota @nextcloud @xwiki @openproject @soverin I think this is a really good start. Obviously there are clear next steps (better odf support and moving from github to somewhere else seem important). I'm interested to see where this project goes :)
Frank
Void & Cozy@Tutanota Question, will the office.eu be a standalone service or are they using you for the email portion of the service?
@voidandcozy Hi there! For now we cannot say but stay tuned👀