sanitationGOP knows it can’t win a fair election
AstronutThey’re gonna be so upset when their gerrymanders and registration purges don’t end up doing shit. I bet they will try to set something on fire.
I wish I shared your optimism. The last 20 years have showed us if anything, leftist and centrists will not show up at the polls or split the vote on third parties. The reason conservatives can be so unpopular nationally but still be in office for decades at a time is because their base shows up when the polls are open. So until the left figures out how to actually vote nothing is going to change, despite the current administration literally running concentration camps and oppression any group that isn’t straight white men.
I vote in every election and I believe everyone should, but I also understand that millions and millions of people on the left have yet to see a candidate that actually represents them.
We did that in my country. 30plus years ruling coalition by means of in person cash payouts to the people on the streets, corruption up to the neck, cronyism, nepotism, gerrymandered voting zones, racial and religious divisions on a national policy level, selective prosecution of political opponents etc.
It took the largest national embezzlement scandal ever, a c4 assasination of a model, and the architect of these policies joining the other side to finally get the public to finally sway the voters enough to say ‘im done’
But the us voters are a fickle bunch. I doubt enough of them will do it.
Wait so was the 2024 election rigged? After being told for 4 years that the 2020 election was the most secure election ever and that there was no evidence whatsoever of election fraud, people are now saying that there was massive fraud in the 2024 election?
ZachariahDoesn’t need to be rigged if you’ve got enough voter disenfranchisement and gerrymandering.
The biggest gerrymandered states are the blue ones….
Yes, and all of this is because Lord Feltersnatch forced Texas to do it so California had to reciprocate. Don’t expect democrats to just sit there and get shit on by the traitorous republican’s! The Republican Party is nothing but a criminal organization now!
CharlesDarwinNo, no, no…the Democrats must just unilaterally disarm, you see.
Guys he put four periods in his ellipsis, I think he must be REALLY impatient that we don’t believe him with no evidence other than his own personal bias against democrats. I can feel hope beside himself with disbelief he must be that someone else in the world hasn’t been infected with alt-facts. I thought everyone loved Kool-Aid?
WTH?
By your own source Republicans have 2 of the top 3, and 6 of the top 10, but you’re claiming blue ones are the most prevalent?
Yes, the blue ones have more effect due to their population.
This source has 4 of the top 10 worst gerrymandered states as democratic. The 10 Worst Gerrymandered States in the Country share.google/XE96wys3SqmtrawJC
This source clearly outlines how and why Republican gerrymandering is more significant than democrats. Extreme Maps | Brennan Center for Justice share.google/N9KLkX2LAVJQ3lFIb Try again with some sources next time.
Try again, but next time bring receipts so you don’t look dumb.
The 10 Worst Gerrymandered States in the Country
Monday marked another escalation in the mid-cycle redistricting fight between Republicans in Texas and Democrats in California – with one in another special session to add 5 more GOP seats, and the other maneuvering to counter this with 5 new Democratic seats.
Okay? That list is different than mine, but it still has 6/10 most gerrymandered states are republican controlled states.
Each state is not the same. The level of gerrymandering and the result it gives is different in terms of seats at the table.
No, it doesn’t. This is dated, but since 2018, states have certainly not, as a whole, gerrymandered more in benefit of Democrats than Republicans.
In the 26 states that account for 85 percent of congressional districts, Republicans derive a net benefit of at least 16–17 congressional seats in the current Congress from partisan bias. This advantage represents a significant portion of the 24 seats Democrats would need to pick up to regain control of the U.S. House of Representatives in 2018.
The rigging is happening right in front of us, and they made it legal.
any reasonable person would call that “rigged”
I get your point, but I was referring to literally altering the tally of votes.
Everything else is cheating and not a fair election, by the way I use “rigged” is restricted to counting (or not counting) votes.
i think we might just disagree on semantics and agree in the actual concept.
I’m not saying there was rigging in the election process (disenfranchisement, voter intimidation, Musk bribing votes, and other pre-election fuckery by Republicans aside), but there was without a doubt more evidence of possible corruption in 2024 than 2020. No matter how hard the GOP tried for years, there was never any substantial corruption discovered, only a bunch of Republicans voting multiple times or from other states.
What likely happened, because this is the GOP strategy, is they projected corruption for 4+ years so that when they did do it successfully, the messaging is exactly what you’re doing right now. “Dems said so corruption happened and now they’re saying it did when it allegedly happened to them.” It’s a bullshit argument fueled by ignorance and/or projection
That sure is a conspiracy theory.
It’s a theory that there was election rigging. It’s a fact that there’s more evidence supporting election fuckery in 2024 than 2020.
It definitely isn’t a fact. The extra like 8 million votes for Biden in 2020 that disappeared in 2024 sure looks mighty suspicious. All the videos of ballot boxes being loaded up with hundreds of votes by a single person in 2020 sure look mighty suspicious. The videos of people sitting in their car filling out dozens of mail in voting slips look very suspicious. The sudden surge in votes for democrats right at the end of counts, getting just enough to win seemingly out of nowhere, look very odd.
What evidence is there of election rigging for 2024?
InfernoWarriorOh come on now… you cannot say that! Or the fact that people claimed the Bush, Obama, Obama, Trump, Biden, and Trump elections were rigged since the 2000s! Just because the candidate we did not want to win won does not mean we should not accept it when the opposition wins.
Seriously though, gerrymandering is a real issue across the states and incumbent parties often gerrymanders to keep the opposition of power. In a way, this is election rigging, but until we amend the constitution, this cannot be fixed. Luckily… if enough of us flips in one election cycle, they cannot gerrymander fast enough to stop actual fair elections. This is the reason I am an Independent voter.
Even though I could not vote, I supported GOP President Bush in the first half of the 2000s and only stopped supporting him due to the Patriot Act, Democrat President Obama in the second half of the 2000s and the first half of the 2010s and only stopped supporting him due to him lifting the sanctions on tyrannical regimes (although, the ACA is a good thing), the GOP President Trump in the second half of the 2010s mostly because I did not like the fact Hillary said she would continue Obama’s foreign policy, and the Democrat President Biden in the first half of the 2020s and stopped supporting him due to the botched withdrawl at Afghanistan that gave terrorists American weapons and got our soldiers and military dogs killed. Then in 2024 when I could finally vote, I supported Constitution Party Candidate Terry because Trump was mid, I did not like that the Democrat Party pulled a fast one and forced Biden out when he won the primaries for Kamala without a new primary, I did not like the Libertarian Party Candidate Oliver due to his stances, and I did not like the ‘Vaccines causes Autism!’ Independent Party Candidate RFK Jr. as that is stupid. I have ZERO party loyalty. I am not a partisan voter. If people are hostile to me, it only pushes me away from their candidate and party. Same with if they do stupid stuff.
CosmicTurtle0 [he/him]“If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism; they will abandon democracy.”
PhantaloonsThat tracks.
They didn’t win the last one.
FenrirIIIBut the voters are too lazy to go out and vote, or hate having to go out and vote in an election where they will lose on some issues that ‘matter’ to them.
The fix is in. He’s getting set to take over California.
DarkFuture“Traitors Plan On Committing Treason”