Mastodawn

AI tools are pumping out a ton of apps and content, but no sign of adopting them. To be honest, the term "agentic AI" doesn't even mean anything anymore 😂 In other words, the demand for good developers and artists for making apps will always be there no matter what Sams or Dario says

Mr. HCJ 10h ago

@nixCraft At least the code is secure... right.. oh

It's bizarre, I could have sworn that scam Altman announced ChatGPT had doctoral-level proficiencies. Why can't it make apps that people want to use? Or scientific breakthroughs?

Super weird, almost like that guy is a liar and a grifter.

Algaeman 8h ago

@sauc3 @nixCraft doctoral-level proficiencies

@nixCraft Needs native agent support from iOS just like SDK. Right now none of the apps solve any meaningful problem.

Devon Strang 6h ago

@sunil @nixCraft it’s possible they solve a meaningful problem that only a handful of people have.

David Does Federated 10h ago

@nixCraft mostly just responding to the graph... does the "app releases" line change the baseline at all? Because the graph tells two completely different stories depending on whether it does or not.

crispy branzino ☭ (sold out forever)8h ago

@daviddoes @nixCraft I was radicalized against AI when I tried to get a copy of the viral doner kebab recipe from tiktok and instead was served an AI slop rendition of it that included "add barbecue sauce for an extra kick" with a picture of a corned beef.

Adi 🐕🐾🐾🐾 (he/him)9h ago

@nixCraft my takeaway is different. It comes from a sticker, "writing code was never the bottleneck."
Deciding the right thing to build, the right way to build, marketing it, acquiring and retaining users, and getting them to pay. These were the real bottlenecks. AI hasn't accelerated any of them.

Accelerating the non bottleneck part of a system doesn't make the system better. It makes it worse.

Lightfighter 9h ago

@nixCraft The Fast Fashion of tech. It doesn't fill landfills, just sucks up water and power.

@nixCraft Spotted in the Kiplinger letter recently (recommended), "Agentic" AI, in quotes, with text talking about the importance of CPUs. Showing that the financial sector, if nobody else, is beginning to understand that "Agentic AI" is workflows largely implemented as hand-coded functions that don't use neural nets in any signifant way whatsoever.

Just saying, "Agentic" never really meant anything, but those of us who will be kicked out if we don't ship AI are implementing things that work.

@nixCraft I fear two major issues with genAI as affecting real devs:

1. How do they find us and our work, after being drowned in slop?
2. How many companies are going to go bankrupt or have to significantly downsize after they went all in on AI and are now finding it doesn't do what they want, and costs more than they can afford?

Ian K. Rogers ikr?╭ರ_ಠ 8h ago

@nixCraft the signal to noise ratio is real

Dirk Hohndel 8h ago

@nixCraft
It's unavoidable. Get on board or get left behind.
Just like the Metaverse. Or Blockchain. Or tulips.

I expect the review numbers to spike soon. As soon as they have figured out how to have AI bots review AI apps that get downloaded by fake AI users. 🤷‍♂️

M/KΞ 🇪🇺8h ago

@nixCraft Half AI generated app, that i've seen all have the same problem ... not tested with majority of broken link, useless button that do nothing, or unusable feature that have impossible requirement, with no human oversight at all.

@nixCraft the app store is unusable now so theres that

gullevek ☢️ 🇯🇵8h ago

@nixCraft @briankrebs Every new app is now viewed by me as "oh just another slop code app that someone slopped together and has no way of supporting in the long run so why even bother to check it out". So I personally check if the app existed before sloppification (B.S.) and only then I bother actually checking.

MeaningfulBits 7h ago

@nixCraft its almost like dweebs with a huge auto complete machine and no IRL experience have no fucking clue what people actually want/need...

Ashwin Dixit 6h ago

Anyone can generate an app. But the app is untested, unmaintained, unsupportable, and not sustainable.

An app has a lifecycle which takes knowledgeable people to support.

Ask yourself why you wanted to generate an app in the first place, if you don't have software skills.

Progenitor, Benevolent-I 5h ago

This is an unpopular opinion around here, but in the already malignant cesspool that is mobile apps, somewhere between the raw sewage and the slop, I like to think someone will build something good that wouldn't have existed otherwise.

Maybe a good designer can get acceptable code or a good coder can get acceptable design and the mix will be better than the existing crap.

Bill, organizer of stuff 6h ago

@nixCraft in other words, "duh."

@nixCraft I disagree because nobody can define what a "good" artist or a "good" developer means. And for most companies, good enough is sufficient.
The companies will weigh a good developer who gets sick and needs training compared to an AI who works seven by 24 and other complaints.
Additionally there is a saying "Only a Buddha can recognize a Buddha".
No product manager or senior manager can recognize a good developer.

@nixCraft It's the attention economy, stupid!

Janek @ IndieDev.site 58m ago

@nixCraft a real #dataisbeautiful