max oakland
a stinky ox šwhy is it always "grow your business"?
why can't it just be "find a nice comfortable equilibrium for your business"?
Jan Beta@llamasoft_ox I think that sums up most of whatās wrong with the world. It could be that easy!
Paula Maddox@llamasoft_ox so true!!!
All banks and so on think you should be employing 10000 people and having a turnover of 5 million a year. Itās stupid.
All banks and so on think you should be employing 10000 people and having a turnover of 5 million a year. Itās stupid.
Netzblockierer@PaulaMaddox @llamasoft_ox not all.
- Cooperative Banks owned by their own customers do put their interests forth, and those have to be sustainabke goals.
- Literally part of the "Cooperatives Law" in Germany!
But you sadly are correct in general regardlessā¦
Ben Cox@llamasoft_ox The shareholders demand it, because the stock market is equivalent to gambling.
@ben @llamasoft_ox the only differences between gambling and sock market are
- that gambling is taxed more and someone gabling their possessions away isn't gonna get someone else fired because they worked who's a subvendor for a subcomponentā¦
Simon EI3JDB@llamasoft_ox In general, economics consists of a whole bunch of feedback loops. It's easier to control that with motion in one direction or the other.
In mathematical terms, the solutions to differential equations tend to be oscillations or exponential change. In economics it's often both. It's very rarely a straight horizontal line.
The alternative is a directed, managed economy - but that's the evil communism, right?
B@llamasoft_ox That's all we're trying to get to with @limeleaf and the things we're building.
A-nom-nom-nom-aly BSC SSCBecause greedy narcissists only understand 'line goes up and to the right' every 3 months or it's a financial disaster.
Every time see something labelled as 'bad for the economy'.. replace economy with 'rich wankers'
Raising minimum wage... that's bad for rich wankers
Paying doctors and nurses a decent wage, that's bad for rich wankers.
Affordable and easily accessible public transport... that's bad for rich wankers.
Petra van Cronenburg@llamasoft_ox The problem is that the system helps you only if you grow, and that's not only for big companies.
Imagine being an artist (let's say in France), unemployed or so poor that they have to live from social welfare. They propose to become a solo entrepreneur. You have to show your turnover.
If you stay too long under the minimum wage, they will ask you if you are incompetent/need a different job. If you grow, all is o.k. It's all about growth of profits.
Imagine being an artist (let's say in France), unemployed or so poor that they have to live from social welfare. They propose to become a solo entrepreneur. You have to show your turnover.
If you stay too long under the minimum wage, they will ask you if you are incompetent/need a different job. If you grow, all is o.k. It's all about growth of profits.
š enkidu š¤@llamasoft_ox capitalism is a pyramid scheme?
@llamasoft_ox because Capitalists believe in the bullshit notion of "rise and grind" when the reality is more like "get grinded and die"ā¦
- Plus the gigantomaniac idea if perpetual, exponential growth on a very finite Earthā¦
Owl Eyes@llamasoft_ox it's Narcissistic thinking that must always grow the business. Grandiosity is its own end, for them. Narcissistic supply is what they feed on, and must obtain at any cost, no matter how toxic. Study #psychology to actually find the answers you seek.
Alexia 
@llamasoft_ox because capitalism demands growth. for reasons.
bitsavers.orgbeware any capitalists in a position of power in a non-profit
look to wikipedia as a poster child
Giles Goat@llamasoft_ox .. about 2500 years ago .. they were talking about ..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Way
"The Middle Way" ... and 2500 years after we are still not getting it .. š
Andy Wootton@llamasoft_ox "Scaling can go down as well as up." Better actually because failure is much easier than success if a company is small.
ā¤ plasticpuppy ā¤@llamasoft_ox capitalism and narcissism.
Boring Nondescript Little Worm@llamasoft_ox what else am I supposed to do with this perfectly good packet of Business Seeds?
europlus 
@llamasoft_ox @janbeta thatās exactly what Iām intending on doing with my new biz.
Pay my bills, a little cream for frills.
etnoI'd go further with : "make life easier for your clients" - business is just a side-effect
Linza@llamasoft_ox "The economy" is a very large pyramid scheme.
toscalix@llamasoft_ox sadly, markets are not systems with equilibrium states, nor their players. If you are not growing, you are getting smaller. And inertia is the worst enemy or the best ally of any business. So you have no choice but to grow... or suffer.
What you can do is to define how you grow, what for...