Culture is full of persephone eating pomegranate seeds, beware of greeks bearing gifts, don't eat fairy food, don't accept favors from demons because you'll owe them, monkey's paw wishes...

And then all these "ain't no such thing as a free lunch" fuckers tell you to check in LLM pull requests, and mock the reluctant as fools. STRINGS ARE VERY MUCH ATTACHED. This crap is fucking sticky at nuclear contamination levels. You pivoted from NFTs to this, we watched you do it.

@landley coïncidentally, I was literally just yesterday thinking about TANSTAAFL in regards to LLMs

@eigen I believe in free lunches. I've been an open source developer and science fiction convention organizer for decades, humans were hunter-gatherers long before inventing money, parents really shouldn't present their children a cumulative bill when they turn 18, etc.

But THEY don't believe in it, and are thus hypocrites. They do not ALLOW free lunches. The tragedy of the commons is capitalism, whose matrix math consumes "free" infinitely until scarcity puts a price on each lungful of air.

#quote | «The tragedy of the commons is capitalism, whose matrix math consumes "free" infinitely until scarcity puts a price on each lungful of air».

@[email protected] this is a beautifully quotable phrase, thank you.

@landley @eigen The moral and theological basis for Free lunch sounds like something I might expect to read in https://www.vatican.va/content/leo-xiv/en/encyclicals/documents/20260515-magnifica-humanitas.html , if I could focus long enough to read the whole thing.

The longer I keep trying to feed people by farming the more irritated I get with "TANSTAAFL" vulture capitalists who seem to like eating the lunch I grow while perpetuating the "go big or get out" farming models. These same "capital efficiency" markets where it's more efficient somehow to always scale up, except when scaling up really just hands a free lunch to whomever had a market leverage gambling problem and acquired a oligarchic/monopolisitic/cartel level of control over the thing everyone needs to grow food.

This thing right now seems to be diesel fuel and ammonia fertilizer derivatives.

So I have more wind turbine power in sight than I could imagine using in anything less than a gigawatt supercomputer, an electric Kenworth, and a solar tractor.

If we're not working on free software farm robots to provide food, housing, and health care for everyone who wants to come and commit code, what the hell are we even doing?
Encyclical Letter of His Holiness Leo XIV Magnifica Humanitas (15 May 2026)

ENCYCLICAL LETTER MAGNIFICA HUMANITAS OF HIS HOLINESS POPE LEO XIV ON SAFEGUARDING THE HUMAN PERSON IN THE TIME OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE [ Multimedia ] ___________________________

Rob Landley (@[email protected])

An israeli academic has been growing all his own food for 15 years on 750 square meters of land, working 1 day per month. Basic explanation: https://youtu.be/TNR8JfHah00 Walkthrough: https://youtu.be/KN6RuFqvOns He grows wheat, fava beans, and olives, plus a small vegetable garden for variety. All locally appropriate to his mediterranean climate. He says he could get 50% more output if he watered stuff rather than letting rain do it, but doesn't see the need.

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@landley @eigen This is fascinating, and there's always a catch, like actually needing 5 acres and the mass flow of importing offsite manure. Either way, I should easily be able to feed at least 100 people from 200 acres in Iowa with primarily plant based diets and crop management enabled by modern processors (or at least as modern as the first machine I ran linux on).
The more interesting question to me is what is the minimum viable software stack I need to keep running this Fediverse instance and keep in touch with all the other people doing really interesting things around the world.
How many people (and corresponding acres) do I need to have on-site to support building a 130nm fab on the farm that uses corncobs as the silica source?

@Technomagik @eigen His catch is living in the mediterranean and growing the same locally-appropriate crops people there grew ~2500 years ago.

As it says, he's cultivating just under 1/5 of an acre and not even watering it. His "catch" is you can't replicate that in Minnesota, plus olives take forever to establish.

The reply post to that one was somebody feeding 6 people on 1/4 acre in north america with locally appropriate stuff for there. (More labor, more output.)

@Technomagik @eigen I bought three "Orange Pi 3b 8gb" boards shortly after Biden announced he was running for a second term, on the assumption supply chains would crash so hard they would no longer be available.

Instead, the price slightly more than doubled: https://www.amazon.com/Orange-Pi-Frequency-Bluetooth-OpenHarmony/dp/B0CDP6R2XR

The hard part was getting vanilla linux to run on them. I refused to apt-get update from huaweicloud.

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