WPDE: Climber rescued after being pinned under 16,000-pound boulder
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WPDE: Climber rescued after being pinned under 16,000-pound boulder
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@ai6yr The article briefly mentions they built a field rig to lift/shift the boulder. As someone interested in engineering, I'd be curious. The photo suggests that maybe they wrapped it in a webbing, then pulled it off of him, perhaps with a winch.
That's the kind of object where if the other end of the winch is something like one of those fire trucks, you might drag the truck along the gravel more than move the boulder, even with the parking brake set on every wheel.
@scottmiller42 @ai6yr
They've got better photos and videos at https://www.facebook.com/clackamasfire/posts/pfbid02RxUmxLowEdg2hoVNWWrKtz9Mr5XxtgecEgJuFsHkdLSZbdZgNNGxumhTP3KgZNHnl
Looks like they squeezed in one wooden wedge at a time until they could get the patient out from under it. So just winching an inch at a time, and making sure it couldn't drop back down to the starting position.
@me_valentijn @scottmiller42 @ai6yr It's more than just lifting the weight without risk of it falling back down...as the weight is removed, you have to be looking out for bleeding. With crush injuries the weight is often all that's keeping the blood on the inside.
I know several of you are pros at this; I only had one day-long course in lifting heavy objects off of trapped people, focusing on tilt-up construction, not boulders. I'm open to corrections!
@me_valentijn @scottmiller42 @ai6yr
My one day was a disaster also...group of four trainees. When I was getting my turns with the dummy under the slabs, the other three were supposed to be managing the lifting and cribbing, and they weren't. So I was yelling orders at them while trying to pass the class while also trying to avoid being crushed by these morons as they repeatedly dropped the slab.
Teamwork is a lot of fun, really.
@W6KME @MsMerope @me_valentijn @ai6yr I’m sure field rescue is hard, and I’d be incompetent. Thinking & acting quickly under pressure is not my forte. Ruminating on a challenging problem that takes days of thought is more my thing.
That said one skill doing IT at very large company has taught me: you can’t do your own job if you are double-checking everyone else. Maybe a team lead, but in cases like this, it’s probably more down to picking the people who can be depended upon.
@W6KME @scottmiller42 @me_valentijn @ai6yr
yeah, it's amazing how people actually react to chaos.
We've got a volunteer who can regurgitate all the medical hows, whys, and wherefores - but every time I've been at an event with them where the 🩸 hits the pavement? They freeze up.
and trauma is mostly what we deal with.
@Dougfir @MsMerope @W6KME @scottmiller42 @me_valentijn @ai6yr
i was all set to go into pharmacy like my dad and grandfather until i found out you had to cut open dead animals in school.
in middle school biology, when we were supposed to dissect a worm, i brought in a note that i was a conscientious objector.
@lauren @paul_ipv6 @Dougfir @MsMerope @W6KME @scottmiller42 @me_valentijn @ai6yr reminds me of animal tech, we were warned up front that of the student cohort there was a good chance 2-3 of us would develop a new allergy to the species we wanted to work with by the time we were qualified to do so (or by a few years into the job).
We all wore n95s to work every day (best known prevention, as the phenomenon is caused by constant daily inhalation of tiny particles) and luckily it never happened to anyone I knew. But it does happen a lot in that career
@ai6yr @ElyseMGrasso @coolandnormal @lauren @Dougfir @MsMerope @W6KME @scottmiller42 @me_valentijn
radium! the miracle cosmetic! belladonna! makes your cheeks rosy!
there was a murder mystery (can't remember the episode) where a green book was used to kill someone due to the arsenic.
@paul_ipv6 @ai6yr @ElyseMGrasso @coolandnormal @lauren @Dougfir @MsMerope @scottmiller42 @me_valentijn I think I always assumed it was the highly popular dark hunter green that contained arsenic, but apparently, it's more like emerald.
https://sites.udel.edu/poisonbookproject/resources/arsenical-books-database/
@ai6yr @ElyseMGrasso @coolandnormal @lauren @paul_ipv6 @Dougfir @MsMerope @W6KME @me_valentijn Proto industrialized people just did all kinds of crazy crap.
Did you know that when I was a child, they routinely added lead to gasoline? On purpose? And not just a wee dram, but EPA estimates 200,000 tons per year [1].
Tons per year.
[1] https://www.epa.gov/archive/epa/aboutepa/epa-requires-phase-out-lead-all-grades-gasoline.html
@scottmiller42 @ai6yr @ElyseMGrasso @coolandnormal @lauren @Dougfir @MsMerope @W6KME @me_valentijn
engines were designed to take advantage of the lead in the gas. if you have one of that era of car, you need a special additive to not have the engine "knock"...
in roman times, they deliberately added lead to drinking water.
@paul_ipv6 @ai6yr @ElyseMGrasso @coolandnormal @lauren @Dougfir @MsMerope @W6KME @me_valentijn There are other octane boosters, though. I don't know to what extent I believe this, but some claim a primary reason tetraethyl lead was selected was that it was patentable. Then inertia would continue its use long after the patent ran out.
I didn't find any cite-worthy sources in a quick search, so do with that what you will.
@scottmiller42 @W6KME @ai6yr @ElyseMGrasso @coolandnormal @lauren @Dougfir @MsMerope @me_valentijn
yeah. the folks i knew that cared were mostly driving the late 60s muscle cars (cougars, road runners, mustangs) and really pushing them.
@lauren @W6KME @scottmiller42 @paul_ipv6 @ai6yr @ElyseMGrasso @coolandnormal @Dougfir @MsMerope @me_valentijn
Back when I graduated HS, the next door neighbor won a raffle. A 67 Corvette Stingray fast back. He said he had to get additives as well as fill up every time he touched the gas lol
Also, friends were driving by during the delivery party asking 'Graduation present?' I WISH
@W6KME @scottmiller42 @paul_ipv6 @ai6yr @ElyseMGrasso @coolandnormal @lauren @Dougfir @MsMerope @me_valentijn My understanding was it also acted as a sort of cushion between the valve and seat.
no idea how much lead I breathed in growing up near Los Angeles in the 60s/70s. Thx, Ethyl Corp.
@Dougfir @david @scottmiller42 @paul_ipv6 @ai6yr @ElyseMGrasso @coolandnormal @lauren @MsMerope @me_valentijn After having covid, I was trying to describe the chest pain I was left with to a doctor. I said it was like being in LA in the 60s, where we would visit often. After a few tries I realized he was too young to have any idea what I was talking about.
5 years after covid, inhaling deeply still has that same brown-air pain, unfortunately.
@coolandnormal @Dougfir @david @W6KME @scottmiller42 @paul_ipv6 @ai6yr @ElyseMGrasso @lauren @MsMerope @me_valentijn as a person with asthma I absolutely decided between my last couple of job offers based in part on air quality
here I can live a complete life like a normal person most days (with medication)
this isn't possible for me in much of the world
@coolandnormal @Dougfir @W6KME @scottmiller42 @paul_ipv6 @ai6yr @ElyseMGrasso @lauren @MsMerope @me_valentijn
Still is! Although there's no smog here as such (Louisville KY), there's some kind of meat processing plant nearby that puts out this greasy boiled-meat stink once a week. Oh and the coal-fired power plant about 10mi away doesn't help.
The Dead Sea is another sanatorium-style place. Higher oxygen levels, higher atmospheric pressure due to -450+ sea level. Too bad it's so hot…

@vandorb12 @Dougfir @scottmiller42 @ai6yr @ElyseMGrasso @coolandnormal @lauren @MsMerope @W6KME @me_valentijn
in the service, i was the only person in my office that didn't smoke. fortunately for my lungs, the govt went non-smoking the 2nd year i was in.
@Dougfir @scottmiller42 @ai6yr @ElyseMGrasso @coolandnormal @lauren @paul_ipv6 @W6KME @me_valentijn
restaurants!
last time I was in Kentucky - granted that was ~20 years ago... they still had smoking sections in restaurants
which is like being in a house with an open concept floor plan - with smoking in the living room but not the dining area
@MsMerope @Dougfir @scottmiller42 @ai6yr @ElyseMGrasso @coolandnormal @lauren @paul_ipv6 @W6KME @me_valentijn I grew up in KY and it’s *wild* just how bad it was. Not even any separation between sections, you would have a smoking booth right on the other side of the aisle from a non-smoking one. And that’s assuming there even *was* a non-smoking section —it wasn’t a guarantee, especially in bars and bowling alleys.
Thankfully, a few years back they did finally decide that smoking in restaurants is Bad, Actually. It threw me when I was back there for the first time in years and didn’t get hit with the follow-up “smoking or non” after telling the hostess our party size. It’s still ingrained in my head.
@alahmnat @MsMerope @Dougfir @scottmiller42 @ai6yr @ElyseMGrasso @coolandnormal @lauren @W6KME @me_valentijn
i still have less than fond memories of smoking vs non-smoking on planes. being in the last row of non-smoking with smoking right behind you was pretty much pointless...
@scottmiller42 @ai6yr @ElyseMGrasso @coolandnormal @lauren @paul_ipv6 @Dougfir @MsMerope @W6KME @me_valentijn
I remember as a kid in the 1970s, my dad telling me that you could tell the general condition of a car’s engine by looking inside the tailpipe.
Silvery-white was good.
I’m thinking that it must have been from all the lead!
@ai6yr @ElyseMGrasso @coolandnormal @lauren @paul_ipv6 @Dougfir @W6KME @scottmiller42 @me_valentijn
well yeah, in dress making? you have to have something to go with the old lace....
🚪 yeah, I'll show myself out...