AI6YR BenWPDE: Climber rescued after being pinned under 16,000-pound boulder
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Scott Miller 🇺🇦 🇺🇸@ai6yr The article briefly mentions they built a field rig to lift/shift the boulder. As someone interested in engineering, I'd be curious. The photo suggests that maybe they wrapped it in a webbing, then pulled it off of him, perhaps with a winch.
That's the kind of object where if the other end of the winch is something like one of those fire trucks, you might drag the truck along the gravel more than move the boulder, even with the parking brake set on every wheel.
me_valentijn@scottmiller42 @ai6yr
They've got better photos and videos at https://www.facebook.com/clackamasfire/posts/pfbid02RxUmxLowEdg2hoVNWWrKtz9Mr5XxtgecEgJuFsHkdLSZbdZgNNGxumhTP3KgZNHnl
Looks like they squeezed in one wooden wedge at a time until they could get the patient out from under it. So just winching an inch at a time, and making sure it couldn't drop back down to the starting position.
W6KME@me_valentijn @scottmiller42 @ai6yr It's more than just lifting the weight without risk of it falling back down...as the weight is removed, you have to be looking out for bleeding. With crush injuries the weight is often all that's keeping the blood on the inside.
I know several of you are pros at this; I only had one day-long course in lifting heavy objects off of trapped people, focusing on tilt-up construction, not boulders. I'm open to corrections!
@W6KME @scottmiller42 @ai6yr
Yeah, they have the patient blurred, but you can see an arm and a blood pressure cuff in various images. Wouldn't be surprised if there was other equipment in the blur as well.
Yeah, they have the patient blurred, but you can see an arm and a blood pressure cuff in various images. Wouldn't be surprised if there was other equipment in the blur as well.
@me_valentijn @scottmiller42 @ai6yr
My one day was a disaster also...group of four trainees. When I was getting my turns with the dummy under the slabs, the other three were supposed to be managing the lifting and cribbing, and they weren't. So I was yelling orders at them while trying to pass the class while also trying to avoid being crushed by these morons as they repeatedly dropped the slab.
Teamwork is a lot of fun, really.
MsMerope@MsMerope @me_valentijn @scottmiller42 @ai6yr It should be easy, right? But some people simply can't understand working together.
@W6KME @MsMerope @me_valentijn @ai6yr I’m sure field rescue is hard, and I’d be incompetent. Thinking & acting quickly under pressure is not my forte. Ruminating on a challenging problem that takes days of thought is more my thing.
That said one skill doing IT at very large company has taught me: you can’t do your own job if you are double-checking everyone else. Maybe a team lead, but in cases like this, it’s probably more down to picking the people who can be depended upon.
@scottmiller42 @MsMerope @me_valentijn @ai6yr Absolutely correct. And at least I learned that day that several coworkers were useless in an emergency. That was good to know-this was just a couple of months before the Northridge quake when we had several large facilities full of collapsed equipment and walls, all surrounded by hazmat.
@W6KME @scottmiller42 @me_valentijn @ai6yr
yeah, it's amazing how people actually react to chaos.
We've got a volunteer who can regurgitate all the medical hows, whys, and wherefores - but every time I've been at an event with them where the 🩸 hits the pavement? They freeze up.
and trauma is mostly what we deal with.
Jim Hubbell@MsMerope @W6KME @scottmiller42 @me_valentijn @ai6yr
Mom went all the way through nurses training only to discover she fainted in an operating room. She was much happier as a librarian.
Mom went all the way through nurses training only to discover she fainted in an operating room. She was much happier as a librarian.
@MsMerope @Dougfir @W6KME @scottmiller42 @me_valentijn I had run into someone who had gotten a certification and training as an X-ray technician, spending a lot of money and time on it. Then, he got a job, and quit the first week realizing he couldn't stomach dealing with all the folks who were mangled and/or in very serious condition from the ER... never had any idea he'd have to deal with that. He was not prepared for that!
@ai6yr @Dougfir @W6KME @scottmiller42 @me_valentijn
blood I can deal with - it's those other bodily fluids I can't deal with
@MsMerope @ai6yr @W6KME @scottmiller42 @me_valentijn
Gloves and vaccines are your friends.
Fun story. When our youngest was ready to be born C-section, the doctor allowed me to be in the operating room. I was all scrubbed and gowned. When the scalpel first pressed into my wife, I turned green and had to sit on a handy stool. I carefully looked only at my wife's face until they pulled the baby out. Then, for the next quite a while, I was able to watch everything the doctors did to sew her back up.
Since then, other people's blood and fluids don't bother me.
Gloves and vaccines are your friends.
Fun story. When our youngest was ready to be born C-section, the doctor allowed me to be in the operating room. I was all scrubbed and gowned. When the scalpel first pressed into my wife, I turned green and had to sit on a handy stool. I carefully looked only at my wife's face until they pulled the baby out. Then, for the next quite a while, I was able to watch everything the doctors did to sew her back up.
Since then, other people's blood and fluids don't bother me.
@Dougfir @ai6yr @W6KME @scottmiller42 @me_valentijn
nah, it's the SMELL
my gag reflexes are a little too sensitive to stinkiness - hence my issue with 2nd hand smoke.
I'm like Radar - but for fumes. 🙄 🤪
@MsMerope @ai6yr @W6KME @scottmiller42 @me_valentijn
One of the PVFD paramedics taught us about Vicks Vaporub.
In my advancing years, I am much less sensitive to odors.
One of the PVFD paramedics taught us about Vicks Vaporub.
In my advancing years, I am much less sensitive to odors.
@Dougfir @ai6yr @W6KME @scottmiller42 @me_valentijn
lol yeah, I use that here when the 2nd hand smoke is bad but I really want the windows open. surgical mask with vapo rub and all the ai purifiers running full tilt