Justin Fitzsimmons6d ago

So I set up a XMPP server in my homelab this weekend to see how the ecosystem has evolved since the last time I used it. Only took me a few hours.

It seems like it has pretty much everything we'd expect from IM these days? E2EE with forward secrecy, group chats, message archives, reactions, file uploads, audio messages, voice and video calling, location sharing, etc. etc. It's even federated!

Why are we sleeping on this tech? Is there some unmitigated downside I haven't discovered yet?

#xmpp

Show threadGonzalo Nemmi 5d ago

@smn

> Why are we sleeping on this tech? Is there some unmitigated downside I haven't discovered yet?

No. The other tech has better advertising .. and that's all there is to it.

Happy to have you back on #XMPP !

Show threadᴏᴏᴍ-ᴋɪʟʟᴇʀ: 3335d ago
@gnemmi @smn ive always liked xmpp. only barrier ive seen is getting nontechnical connections to onboard.
Show threadJustin Fitzsimmons5d ago

@jae @gnemmi yeah, I just ran into this actually. Told a friend that I'm using Conversations on Android. Then they tell me it's $7 on the play store. I was blindsided by that because I installed it from F-Droid, where it's free.

Installing F-Droid or paying the play store tax is high barrier of entry for non-technical folks to experiment with the tech.

Which is something I say with mixed feelings, because open source developers absolutely deserve to be compensated.

Show threadsilverwizard

@smn @gnemmi @jae there's Monocles, Snikket, Conversations, Cheogram, the playstore version of the last two use google unified push servers, so charge to cover costs, F-Droid version doesn't. I don't think Snikket or Monocles does that, but I could be wrong.

They're all Conversations forks.

May 26 at 10:31pmWeb
Show threadᴏᴏᴍ-ᴋɪʟʟᴇʀ: 3335d ago
@silverwizard @gnemmi @smn i use cheogram and it's pretty decent. although using phones these days is rare for me. i'm more of a laptop/desktop person trying to stay less connected.
Show threadsilverwizard4d ago
@jae @gnemmi @smn yeah, I use Gajim on my lap/desktops. Cheogram mostly on my phones.
Show threadᴏᴏᴍ-ᴋɪʟʟᴇʀ: 3334d ago
@silverwizard @gnemmi @smn gajim always served me well. i tried dino recently and had some issues with connections not receiving my messages but maybe it was my error ))
Show threadsilverwizard4d ago
@jae @gnemmi @smn I have never liked Dino, it has always felt too "my way or no way"
Show threadᴏᴏᴍ-ᴋɪʟʟᴇʀ: 3334d ago
@silverwizard @gnemmi @smn that hits. it feels like kiosk-mode of clients to me