Shannon Prickett
If some cookies are essential for the functioning of your website, you need a better website.
May 26 at 9:31pmWeb
Show threadCheerios de BergeracMay 26
@Binder Shannon is anti-little-treat lifestyle for websites.
Show threadJKrotkovMay 26

@Binder

What if cookies are essential for the functioning of me?

Show threadKaitlynnMay 26
@Binder Or, even better, get yourself a better website and get yourself some real cookies instead because at least those ones taste good which is a hell of a lot more than what the digital ones do. :)
Show threadjesterchen42May 26
@Binder 🏆
Show threadWilliam B PeckhamMay 27
@Binder I do not function without oatmeal raisin cookies. Oh, and coffee Lots of hot black coffee.
Show threadmasukomiMay 27

@Binder speaking as a long time web dev, you really REALLY want us to use cookies. The alternative has a lot of brittle edge cases that would annoy everyone.

Only really simple sites like static blogs don’t benefit dramatically from the use of cookies.

Cookies don’t equate to privacy invasion or tracking. They can be used for that but they’re also a key piece of web infrastructure we don’t have an alternative for.

Show threadJohn E Bartley III (D) K7AAY📎May 27

@masukomi @Binder You say.

An explanation how how we cab protect our privacy if accepting cookies would help your case.

Show threadmasukomiMay 27

@503bartley @Binder sure. Use ad blockers. Especially dns level ones like Pi-hole or NextDNS offer.

I used to work in targeted advertising. I know how the tracking works intimately. If you block the ability for your browser to pass your request to ad companies it radically hampers tracking ability

Show threadironicmokaMay 27
@masukomi @503bartley @Binder you can have cookies aimed to let you log in to edit your site (in a CMS) or let the Web Application Firewall detect abuse and prevent some very nasty things you don’t want to see in a cookie-less website you’re visiting. The fact that 99% of cookies are evil data harvesting trackers doesn’t mean you’d better live getting rid of the tool itself.
Show threadDavid Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*)May 27

@ironicmoka @masukomi @503bartley @Binder

Note that cookies set in response to direct user actions typically do not require a cookie banner. The legal requirement is informed consent. If the user has asked you to do something that requires tracking some state (such as setting a preference) then they have granted permission for you to track the minimum amount of state necessary for that action. Similarly, if they create an account and log in, they have granted permission to associate that session with your account.

The ‘problem’ is if you want to do privacy-invasive things such as try to link that account to their identity on other sites or to their legal identity. Then you have a bunch more legal requirements. But you can also just not do that.

Show threadHak Foo May 27
@Binder I can recall there was a brief window where people used URL parameters like "foo.php?PHPSESSID=0000000000000" which could get you some of the functionality, at the expense of having to preserve it on every navigation action.
Show threadstgiga (they/them) May 27
@Binder BWTC32Key doesn't use cookies.
Show threadJdb_envMay 28

@Binder @pookiesorcery

Excellent remark !

And when it starts with "we value your privacy", you know it's not true.