plzdontkillus - Our friends discover TikTok

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plzdontkillus - Our friends discover TikTok - awful.systems

Pretty much everyone in the word business has noticed that audio and video are kicking writing’s butts in terms of getting an online audience (I am not sure in terms of influencing people in serious jobs). Ivy Astrix mentioned that our dear friends in Berkeley decided that if a camp for wordy bloggers was good, a camp for short-form vloggers would be even better. The camp [https://www.plzdontkillus.com/] is about AI doom, but the vlogs don’t have to be. You can live in Berkeley for a month, be paid $2,000, compete for $20,000 in prizes, and hang out with illustrious figures Hereticon [https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Hereticon] alumni like: - Grimes - Yud - CJ the X [https://cjthex.com/] - Liv Boeree - Zoe Curzi - Rob Miles - Yud - Aella - Nate Soares (in the triangle wing, one presumes) The marketing mentions “a sprinkling of AI experts” even though Yud’s position on Twitter is that he is not an AI expert. I don’t think Soares or MIles have any relevant credentials or achievements other than social media posts. Another Robert Miles [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Miles] was a University of Hull computer scientist. plzdontkillus [www.plzdontkillus.com] is definitely less straight and male than their usual lineup, and some of these people would be interesting to meet or have coffee with, but I would not recommend committing to spend a month with them given all the abuse and negligence in rationalist communities. The LessWrong crowd don’t seem to be worried that subsidies for streaming video are killing the culture of reading and writing and the rational, reflective, slow forms of thinking which it inculates, I don’t know if they have talked about the need to cooperate with NIMBYs fighting data centers, or if using law to prevent destruction might involve hiring a law team to make OpenAI’s life hell.

The marketing mentions “a sprinkling of AI experts” even though Yud’s position on Twitter is that he is not an AI expert.

wait really?

Yes he said that xcancel.com/ESYudkowsky/…/1642908341327499264#m

For the record, I never describe myself to the media as an expert / researcher / scientist in Artificial Intelligence; if they give me the option, I say I’m a “decision theorist” / Partially, this is because I think that’s what I most feel like I actually am; notions like the reflective consistency of an agent are arguably decision-theory ones, though it’s forging new ground either way. But also, I feel like it’s a place where it would be easiest to defend, to my own satisfaction, and without a sense that I was even slightly misleading anyone, that I made a big damn contribution on at least the PhD level. / (Of course, sometimes the media doesn’t give me that option, which is very understandable of them; and in that case, I say that I was one of the earliest and founding researchers in the field of AGI alignment. Again, seems perverse to deny that.)

It would obviously be best if he accepted that he has friends who love him even if he is not the smartest boy ever but I doubt he will ever make that leap.

Huh, interesting. Those slogans are also rather “interesting”

”we need better messengers”

Is he realising that showing up to a debate in a sparkly hat and goggles is not going to make people take him seriously?

I remember him wearing a suit a lot in the 2010s and looking reasonably respectable. He can, he just doesn’t.

Maybe he thinks employing a weirdo facade makes people lower their guard, taking a page from Jimmy Saville.

Isn’t the ability to manipulate people a defining trait of intelligence according to rationalists?