Maybe someone who’s smarter than me can explain how this is different from the baseline sexual experience of most people:

Axiosexuals are averse to and/or disinterested in sex with individuals they are not attracted to, but may engage if sexual and/or other attraction is present.

Many axiosexuals are on the asexual spectrum (often also identifying as grayasexual or demisexual) but some allosexuals may also identify as axiosexual if they experience disinterest towards sexual activities with individuals they are not specifically attracted to.

Don’t most people want to have sex with people they’re attracted to and don’t want to have sex with people they’re unattracted to?

https://lgbtqia.wiki/wiki/Axiosexual

RE: https://atomicpoet.org/objects/11de341d-dc8f-419d-a6e0-1894cfb471d6

@atomicpoet seems like it to me🤷‍♀️
@Cass_m Put another way, it’s rare for someone to be like, “That person is hideous and repulsive, totally unappealing—which is exactly why I’m sleeping with them”.

@atomicpoet maybe it's how manophere incels plan to get laid? By promoting anti-axiosexual attraction…

It does seem to be a scienc-esque label for general attraction.

@atomicpoet Wanting to have sex with people regardless of whether one is attracted to them could be regarded as a pathology, depending on how much it impacts one's daily life.
@atomicpoet It's my understanding that some people are just kinda horny and down for whatever.
Well, there's probably more to it, but the details are outside my understanding.

I would argue that sexuality describes what people are attracted to, and "axiosexual" describes a seperate if often related phenomenon, kind of like how "transexual" is in fact a term describing gender Identity and not sexuality.
Which is why we we use the word transgender nowadays.

There might be a better word for this (taking the nymph from nymphomaniac gets us axionymph?) but honestly, telling people what words to call themselves is low-key icky and I'm not wading any deeper into those swamps. (not to mention I am deeply unqualified to describe what causes people to have sex, given that I've never had any)
@atomicpoet as for how this differs from regualar sexual experience, just look at the links, especially the grey one.
It's a labe I know well, in fact it's one I've used for myself in the past (that display name did not come from nowhere)
The grey exists in the space where nothing makes sense and more common terms start to seem imprecise.
Lost in the fog, with cause and effect unclear, one scrambles for understanding (is this a symptom of gender dysphoria? A
side-effect of depression? Am I merely overthinking things?) and finds... not much.
an emotion here, a stray thought there, effetively digging through the soil of your own psyche for... something.
Ultimately, one concludes that while this place sure resembles some other places you think you've heard about, this is certainly not those places, and you are now in a new, rather grey-coloured place.
Which you and others like you then proceed to name graysville.
Now, given that you've now all decided you live in greysville (we never quite could agree an the name), you need to figure out what else is in/around the place.
Things like soil, or trees, or deer, things people in other places would take for granted because they come with the territory.
Basically, they're approaching the whole thing from an abnormal perspective and thus getting unusual results, even when the thing being investigated may seem normal to others.
Or at least, this makes sense to me, based on what I remember from the time I thought it made sense to call myself greysexual-greyromantic.

@dhfir I’m not against words to describe things.

What I’m more wondering about is when someone would not be an axiosexual.

In my time, I’ve met a wide variety of people and I’ve never met someone who’s the opposite of an axiosexual. Even people who are hypersexual—the kind whose every waking moment is about seeking out sex to the point it affects job security and basic day-to-day functioning—seem to be attracted to the those they have sex with.

I admit it is entirely possible to have sex with someone you’re unattracted to, and this is the reality for plenty of people (unfortunately). But I’m skeptical about whether they enjoy it or not.

Perhaps you can enjoy the material benefits that come from transactional sex. But that’s not the same as enjoying the act itself.

I hope you realize I’m not being dismissive. I’m trying to understand when someone would not be an axiosexual because I’ve always seen that as the baseline.

@atomicpoet well, there are sex-positive asexuals, and then there are the things single people do with their hands (at least, I assume the number of people who are sexually attracted to themselves is lower than the number of people who masturbate)
Basically, while I'll admit that seeking out sexual encounters with people you're not attracted to is rare, the basic idea is not unprecedented.
@dhfir Thank you, I appreciate you educating me on this topic since it’s actually quite hard to find information about it.

@atomicpoet I think it's a matter of technical definitions of the terms. Notice that they put axiosexual on the asexual spectrum despite them being interested in sex, which implies that asexual has a specific definition other than the common one.

I get the feeling that I'm staring at a rabbit hole debating whether to jump in and see how far it goes.

@atomicpoet

To me, it sounds more like another example of westeners needing to categorize and label every minute thing. I would say this is defacto and does not warrant any specific name of its own. There might be a fetish for the opposite, however.

@GothFvck I won’t lie. This is my immediate thought. I do think the need to categorize and label everything tends to flatten experience and leads to the illusion that everything is subservient to language. But I’m also willing to listen to people who feel otherwise. Not that they’re right—just that I’m willing to hear them out.