The Rust Evangelism Task Force has declared "ethics" to be out of scope. And that's going as well as you might guess:

This document establishes a policy for how LLMs can be used when contributing to rust-lang/rust. [...] No comment on this PR may mention the following topics:

• Long-term social or economic impact of LLMs
• The environmental impact of LLMs
• Anything to do with the copyright status of LLM output
• Moral judgements about people who use LLMs

https://jwz.org/b/yk7V

@jwz the excerpt left me with an impression that things are worse than they are

to add a few more quotes to balance that take:

> We still consider these topics to be important, we simply do not believe this is the right place to discuss them.

> This intentionally does not address the moral, social, and environmental impacts of LLMs. These topics have been extensively discussed on Zulip without reaching consensus, but this policy is relevant regardless of the outcome of these discussions.

@flpvsk Anyone who says "we want to craft this policy only around technical reasons without any discussion of ethics" is:

A) Putting their thumb on the scale
B) A massive piece of shit

@jwz i largely agree. my *charitable* read on this would be:

1. they are not ready to put together AI guidelines in it's full and final form, bc the discussion is ongoing (not set aside, just not finalized, ongoing on Zulip).

2. At the same time AI-authored PRs keep coming in, so they need something in the policy to point to to reject those.

that's the impression I got at least

@flpvsk I have no "charity" left for slop-pushers. They are destroying the world. You do not, under any circumstances, got to hand it to them.

@jwz
I'd go further: we need to make them hand it back.

@flpvsk