Ralph5d ago
Denys Séguret

Here's a strange situation:

thousands of #Rust developers use #bacon, #broot, #dysk, or #lazy-regex every single day — tools I wrote, maintain, and improve for free.

Their companies, though? None of them want to hire their author.

If you use my tools at work and your company does #Rust, I'd really appreciate a hand landing a job or freelance mission. A boost goes a long way. 🙏🦀

https://dystroy.org

dystroy

dystroy - Rust consulting

May 12 at 7:07amWeb
Show threadBiggles 20X6!5d ago
@dystroy delete the repos and only agree to reinstate them once you have a job.
Show threadDmitry Marakasov5d ago
@Taco_lad @dystroy Nobody ever hires saboteurs and blackmailers.
Show threadBiggles 20X6!5d ago
@AMDmi3 @dystroy excellent point, short term might be able to get a job with the current US regime 😜
Show threadLeeloo5d ago
@AMDmi3 @Taco_lad @dystroy
Ooohh, the chronically entitled have new terms for people who don't want to work for them for free.
Show threadThe Orange Theme5d ago
@AMDmi3 @Taco_lad @dystroy They don't hire brilliant programmers either, apparently, but they still profit handsomely from their free labor.
Show threadKrzysztof Sakrejda4d ago
@AMDmi3 @Taco_lad @dystroy job strategies aside it's neither sabotage nor blackmail to take down your repos. The code has been given, it wouldn't mean taking away access, there's no way to do that, it's just setting aside ongoing labor
Show threadPonderStibbons5d ago

@dystroy

Perhaps add #GetFediHired #FediHire
???

Show threadDenys Séguret5d ago

@PonderStibbons I didn't know about those hashtags.

I won't modify the current post but I'll keep them in mind for later (including for friends). Thanks!

Show threadEndlessMason5d ago

@dystroy
"I'm afraid you're over qualified"

Adgegaj

Show threadDenys Séguret5d ago

@EndlessMason I don't know. Maybe that happens but honestly I'm not sure of why I fail to be noticed by potential employers and customers.

It might be because the most corporate code I write is closed source (obviously) and so I don't seem to have corporate abilities ?

Show threadrhempel5d ago

@dystroy @EndlessMason This is a common problem. Those big companies that use your tools have procurement departments, and they usually have a stupidly complex process to add vendors as consultants.

That often means they will contract with large consultancies but not individuals.

Most companies won't even set aside 1000 dollars for developers to donate to their most used open source projects.

It's free right?

But they will make swag for a 5K run ...

Show threadEndlessMason5d ago
@rhempel @dystroy
Maybe devs should be asking for this to be written into in their contracts like the training budgets and travel budgets
Show threadrhempel5d ago
@EndlessMason @dystroy The first thing to get cut is travel and training ... at least that's what I have observed in over 40 years of employment.
Show threadEndlessMason5d ago
@rhempel @dystroy
It's also the thing at the top of every job ad, along with talking about how amazing the pool table/foozball/nap pods in the office are
Show threadGrant_H5d ago
@rhempel @dystroy @EndlessMason it's a mindset. If some middle manager had the foresite now to budget 1% of their opex for this next fy, they could do it.
Took me a while, but I now have a small amount in my high school teaching budget.
Show threadMikalai5d ago
@EndlessMason @dystroy
Funny how immigrant business owner will take you "over qualified", ignoring this bs, and would have a remarkable experience for all, while "proper hr" would not.
Show threadEndlessMason4d ago
@mikalai @dystroy
I don't know what that means.
Show threadMikalai4d ago
@EndlessMason @dystroy
If you have lots of qualifications, it doesn't mean you can't work where not all your skills are used.
But, dumb and soulless hr departments don't give you job. Having more skills puts you at disadvantage.
Yes. This is 100% irrational. But this is the essence behind original mentioning of "you are overqualified".
Small, human scale businesses don't have this problem.
And, may be it is just North American thing.
Show threadEndlessMason4d ago
@mikalai @dystroy
I see what you mean. I think the main thing is that they expect you'll take the job and then demand a pay raise and title to match your experience (because that's what they would do)
Show threadGhostOnTheHalfShell5d ago

@dystroy

This makes me almost want to suggest you reach out to the people who use your tools and say hey, do you have any open positions? I’d like to come work with you

Show threadJacob Pratt → Europe 🇪🇺5d ago
@GhostOnTheHalfShell @dystroy I can't speak for them, but I'm in a similar position. My code is used at so many places it's simply not possible to reach out in a (relatively) easy manner to most of them. They simply don't have a point of contact like that.
Show threadGhostOnTheHalfShell5d ago

@jhpratt @dystroy

Well, if you are the developer who’s producing this code and have it stuffed in a repo, it might be possible to long leave a note unless there’s a policy against it

Show threadadingbatponder  👾5d ago
@dystroy Rust has excellent error messages and I fear that this makes it able to be coded particularly well using LLMs. Therefore I would be rather looking into which languages are being hired currently. I would have thought rust would be top of the list nevertheless. Graduates in the UK currently have to apply to hundreds of positions and might not get one, let alone even a letter of acknowledgement. I know that does not help, but best of luck.
Show threadValentin B. 5d ago
@dystroy we're hiring a Proton, check it out! https://proton.me/careers#jobslist
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Show threadXav5d ago
@beeb @dystroy no remote option ?
Show threadValentin B. 4d ago
@xav @dystroy Not that I know of, no.
Show threadDenys Séguret5d ago
@beeb Proton is an attractive company, but having a family I can't relocate and there's neither offices near me nor remote options :\
Show threadValentin B. 4d ago
@dystroy Yes that's a pickle if you can't relocate or drive a few times a week to Geneva/Paris.
Show threadshem5d ago
@dystroy I wish I was smart enough to build with Rust 😁
Show threadDenys Séguret5d ago

@shemjm

Are you sure you aren't ? I can't be positive, as I don't know you, but maybe it's worth trying ? Worst case: you'll still have learnt new concepts.

In case you try, here's my contribution, some advice to get on the right tracks:

https://dystroy.org/blog/how-not-to-learn-rust/

How not to learn Rust

dystroy - blog

Show threadgaytabase5d ago
@dystroy i'm afraid i don't recognise this as being a strange situation. a shitty situation, sure, but not strange.
Show threadmirabilos🐈‍⬛4d ago
@dystroy even if you get hired, even a four-day week, it’ll leave you powered out during offtime and not able to work much on things, and companies usually don’t let you work on things on company time (unless you manage to make a customer pay for it)…
Show threadJames Just James4d ago
@dystroy Change license to AGPL and you'll get offers from three different companies tomorrow.