Veronica ExplainsYou still deserve privacy, even if you:
- don't use Linux
- use big social media sites
- aren't "techie"
- are just an average computer user
Those of us in the FOSS space need to do a better job of saying that everyone deserves privacy.
(cue folks coming in saying they use BSD, lol)
Ozzelot 
@veronica even if i did put this particular laptop where my one not-technically-emoji-but-also-not-not-an-emoji in a displayname is, i'd still be using linux at work, so... a linux user i would remain
Droid Boy 
Claude@switch
Its developer (yes, one guy - Terry A. Davis) was sadly just as mentally ill as he was talented, and while it's easy to poke fun at the views and behaviors he held (he coined the term "glowie" ffs), I can't help but feel sorry for him. Even his death wasn't clearly concluded to be accident or suicide.
@droidboy @veronica
Its developer (yes, one guy - Terry A. Davis) was sadly just as mentally ill as he was talented, and while it's easy to poke fun at the views and behaviors he held (he coined the term "glowie" ffs), I can't help but feel sorry for him. Even his death wasn't clearly concluded to be accident or suicide.
@droidboy @veronica
Darth Osler@veronica I have been roundly excoriated for asserting in the past 3 decades it is more important to consider 2A covering cryptography than firearms
Juffo-Wup
πΉπππ π²πππππ β π€ͺ@veronica we achieve privacy because our BSDes donβt support HTTP yet!
Antony@veronica I do use (Open-) BSD, but you're entirely correct. Saying people should get off the big platforms and Windows for privacy feels, to me, a bit like telling people not to live near factories if they're concerned about smog. It doesn't address the predatory systems that are actually driving the issues. Everyone deserves privacy and everyone deserves clean air. 'Just move lol' is a crap response to both concerns.
Tattie
purple: licenced to sticky plaster
Draken (on my way to ACen)@veronica
The default needs to be privacy. Most people don't change the defaults.
The default needs to be privacy. Most people don't change the defaults.
Emilio Marin
UkeleleEric@UkeleleEric @emar404 @veronica i am very serious. Tech minded people should be the ones sounding the alarms about corpos like Meta and their criminal activities.
@UkeleleEric @emar404 @veronica
Years ago I was able to educate my non-techie mother on the importance of E2EE by using "would you trust the federal government with a copy of your house keys?" as a metaphor.
Years ago I was able to educate my non-techie mother on the importance of E2EE by using "would you trust the federal government with a copy of your house keys?" as a metaphor.
@draken @UkeleleEric @veronica using metaphors is the way to go for sure, I feel like most non techie people kind of stop listening when tech gets explained lol (which I understand there is a big misconception that anything tech is magic and only smart people understand it). Or I even hear the attitude of "well they already got everything on me so might as well not care" 0_0
Gabriel Markley@veronica que age verification discussion in primary flavors...
teresa_athome@veronica Thank you for saying this! The rights to privacy and security are platform agnostic. Solutions to protect them should be too.
CassandraVertWithout jumping through hoops.
Mx. David SnyderI usually combat the "if you aren't doing anything wrong what's the problem" line with my bathroom analogy.
I don't need privacy in the bathroom because I'm taking secret, sinister poops. I deserve that privacy, and that's good and normal. I should be able to write a (digital) letter to my friends and family without the government or corporations reading it because I deserve that, we all do. And that's good and normal.
Also Google is locking down the android store and AAGGHHHH FUU
Eggs now in different baskets.@mxenbionix @veronica My version of that reply is:
"OK. So, what is the URL of the live-stream webcam in your toilet?"
Tina@veronica But we tend to do. We just don't have the PR budgets that Google, Meta, Microsoft, Apple, X, ... have. So the only thing we can do is telling people: "If you care about your data privacy, don't use Chrome. Don't use Windows. Don't use the only OS your phone supports."
No one here says: "I think as tech-savvy FOSS people at least we should have data privacy". We say "Data privacy should generally be mandatory". But we cannot change what Google, Meta, ... do. We can only advice against using their products.
And then it becomes a fight against convenience and habits. There are amazing people in the FOSS world who work hard to make Software more accessible to "normal" users. But still in the end this is a fight you can only take yourself.
Rainer KΓΆnigPrivacy laws are like the laws of physics. They apply to everyone without exception.
Father HardstoneExcept they are 'man-made' laws and big corporations and companies get away with violating them all the time, sometimes the govts are also part of this (who are supposed to regulate such behaviour)
Now, the whole world has gone nuts to 'Save the Kids' and they are pushing for Digital ID, mandatory facial verification laws while everyday you keep hearing news about user data being breached 
Robson Muniz@veronica We dont, lets go back to Facebook, instagram and whatsapp.
7heoSome of us in the FOSS space are fed up of being the benevolent doormats that get pissed on "for fun" before being begged for help when shit goes south.
When someone is giving you countless warnings that you're doing something stupid, along with explanation, proof, examples, etc., and your reaction is "stfu lol, gtfo you useless dumbfuck nerd", don't be surprised said "nerd" doesn't hold you in high regard, or wants to help you later on.
Robots can be gay deal with it@veronica "No, Linux users also deserve their privacy violated" - Canonical
Gadfly (-booq-)@veronica I so often feel exhausted by how much I need to repeat this.
Also:
- privacy is about consent and agency
- privacy is not a binary state
- the goal of privacy advocacy is supporting the interactions people want and deserve to have