LuxeMay 11
Dan Gillmor
Trump regime has found a semi-plausible excuse to ban burner phones and require ID just to have a phone number. The war on privacy escalates. https://reclaimthenet.org/the-fcc-wants-your-id-before-you-get-a-phone-number
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Show threadپویان Pouyan May 11
@dangillmor Beide obvious faschy vibes, it's not even gonna work. Spammers spoof numbers and use voip numbers from abroad.
Show threadtxtx 🇪🇺May 11
@i @dangillmor Foreign numbers are much easier to block/ignore. I'm surprised that the US doesn't require an ID to get a phone number, it makes such a difference.
Show threadپویان Pouyan May 11
@txtx it does not. Here's a homeless person registering ~200k SIM cards for the ISIS back in 2017:

https://www.wiwo.de/unternehmen/it/terrorabwehr-telekom-will-prepaid-karten-beschraenken/19209268.html

@dangillmor
Terrorabwehr: Telekom will Prepaid-Karten beschränken

Ein Anruf, dann wird die Prepaid-Karte gewechselt. So können Terroristen Ermittler mit wechselnden Rufnummern austricksen. Die Deutsche Telekom will eine europaweite Anti-Terror-Initiative starten, um das zu verhindern.

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Show threadtxtx 🇪🇺May 11

@i @dangillmor Yes, in Germany you need an ID to buy a SIM, as the article you linked from 10 years ago anticipated.

The USA is not Germany. Two different countries ;)

Show threadپویان Pouyan May 11
@txtx the article is from one year after the ID check was introduced in Germany.

The point is: the proposed law is not going to have the desired effect. The precedence is Germany and many other countries (e.g., Austria) with similar legislation.

@dangillmor
Show threadtxtx 🇪🇺May 11
@i @dangillmor I think you should read the article again more carefully! Those 200k SIM cards were purchased in Hungary, not Germany.
Show threadپویان Pouyan May 11
@txtx one big LOL. Even if we forget that the legal situation was similar to Germany at that time (that's how they found the buyer), you basically argue that no (homeless) person can register a phone number and pass it on to someone else in Germany. Right? Well your search machine of choice has some bad news:

https://www.wiwo.de/unternehmen/it/sim-karten-betrug-bundesnetzagentur-illegale-sim-karten-sind-ein-ungeloestes-problem-/29881776.html

There are literally more than enough examples showing that such do not have the effect they propose.
Sim-Karten-Betrug: „Illegale Sim-Karten sind ein ungelöstes Problem“

Im deutschen Mobilfunknetz kann längst nicht jeder Anrufer hinter einer Nummer identifiziert werden. Das behindert Ermittlungsarbeiten. Die Bundesnetzagentur moniert zu lasche Systeme bei Anbietern wie Telefónica.

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Show threadLars GMay 11
@dangillmor You are onto something! Mobile phones are dangerous, not your shotguns!
Show threadAnders GundelachMay 11

@dangillmor

That's fascism 😬

Show threadRandall LeeMay 11
@dangillmor the criminal president believes we show 🆔 to buy a loaf of bread.
This is authoritarian bullshit.
Show threadCarlos SolísMay 11
They'll do what they already do in other countries, paying a random dude to buy a new line on their behalf - next, of course, they'll just enforce a hard cap of one phone line per physical person, which is why they're so adamant about asking for existing phone lines during the paperwork process