United Kingdom to Pass Smoking Ban Only for Those Who Are Not Yet Legal Adults
https://daringfireball.net/linked/2026/04/23/united-kingdom-smoking-ban
United Kingdom to Pass Smoking Ban Only for Those Who Are Not Yet Legal Adults

Link to: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/21/world/europe/uk-smoking-ban-2009.html?unlocked_article_code=1.dVA.f9yJ.YMVg9N8QOlio

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@daringfireball New Zealand passed this with broad support (including from Māori communities, which make the highest proportion of smokers), but a subsequent conservative government undid it.

The idea is simple: there exist adults currently who have nicotine addictions and who could not simply stop without extensive support. But smoking is obviously bad on an individual level and societal and financial level, so you phase it out.

I encourage you to read about it: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0168851024001337 For one, the fears of a black market are overblown and unsupported by evidence.

@nshady @daringfireball yeah, Gruber's take on this is so obviously nonsensical to me.

@bsf1 @nshady @daringfireball You could argue that it’s wrong, or not taking everything into consideration, but ā€nonsensicalā€ that all legal adults should have the same rights? I must also be missing something.

To me, what might make it ok is when there’s overwhelming public support for the law.

@2happy1sad @nshady @daringfireball life isn't fair. just ask people born after 1959 who have to work years more than people born before 1960 before they can collect full social security.
@2happy1sad @nshady @daringfireball Gruber is arguing smoking bans should be applied to everyone equally -- requiring every legal age smoker to quit is nonsensical vs. not permitting young people to start in the first place (by banning sales -- you can argue how effective that is today). People under 21 already don't have the same rights as people under 21 WRT the ability buy cigarettes. The law is simply adjusting the legal birth year to *ever* buy cigarettes.